[report] flame-baiting &implied libel in Agree or Disagree 2

[Louisiane libre]

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Tamakumi implicitly accuses another user of being sexist without any reasons or context and then does an implied strawman making accusations of victim-blaming when it was clear that this was not the case as evidenced by a post on the same page

[Drew Durrnil]

What you're talking about doesn't exist

[Louisiane libre]

What you're talking about doesn't exist

What do you mean, Doesn't exist?

[Louisiane libre]

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[Reploid Productions]

Please link to the specific post(s) you want to report. So far you've linked to a general page of the thread and the start of the thread. You can get the link to a single specific post from right-clicking on the little image in the upper-left corner of the post.

[Louisiane libre]

Please link to the specific post(s) you want to report. So far you've linked to a general page of the thread and the start of the thread. You can get the link to a single specific post from right-clicking on the little (Image) image in the upper-left corner of the post.

Can i quote the offending posts instead.

[Valentine Z]

In light of this happening in the thread, I would like to state that this is all due to a particular user getting increasingly creepy and awkward, and borderline violating the PG-13 rule.

Some examples (I have snipped off some parts from original quotes):

There is no proof that Virginia Giufre was raped

Uni students and high school sophomores (16-22) are cute*

*I'm 17 by the way

Young college girls are hot (i'm 17 btw)

This is after another user has told him to stop it.

I broke up with my girlfriend, you didn't put whether you agree or not and it's normal for a teenager/young man to think a lot about women /skip

1) I don’t care.
2) I don’t want to since I don’t go publicly professing my personal tastes in an attractive partner.
3) Yes but keep that in your head and not on the forums.

/skip

[Farnhamia]

Please link to the specific post(s) you want to report. So far you've linked to a general page of the thread and the start of the thread. You can get the link to a single specific post from right-clicking on the little (Image) image in the upper-left corner of the post.

Can i quote the offending posts instead.

Yes, but we have to be able to link back to it.

[Tamakuni]

I literally never accused someone of being a sexist, the comment I assume you're trying to link is me being scared about what the word "honored" meant in that context (Since the user who made the "We must honor women in history" comment is known for his creepy conduct, including spamming me with Telegrams, borderline sexual innuendos, etc that hopefully moderation has already dealt with). Moreover, the point of that comment was that accusing r*pe victims of being "sirens" and being liars (like this user has implied repeatedly, not just in this occassion) is a disgusting thing to do, because it frankly is a disgusting thing to do.

Note: You can get the link to a specific post if you click the white note thingy next to the name of the poster.
Note 2: It's Tamakuni, not Tamakumi.

Also, I don't want to point fingers but I invite Moderation to investigate if Louisiane Libre is just an alternate account of Sharifistan because, looking at the former's post history, it sprung back to life after 10 days just to make this post accusing me of things I am not doing.

[Bloodshade]

Tamakuni GF

- Slutty

- Confrontational

- manipulative

- entitled

Adding on to the evidence already presented, Sharifistan, using their puppet 'Ideal Britain', attacked Tamakuni's character in an attempt to incite them in the AN BF/GF thread.

16-19 year old girls are cuter than girls over 30

16 year old girls are hot

16 year old girls are cute

Uploading pictures of 13-17 year old girls in bikinis(the pictures were taken with their consent)

More evidence to add to Valentine's existing examples. This just isn't normal and is most certainly not something suitable for this site. This comes up too many times to be treated as a 'wave-off' and besides, there is no guarantee we know how old Sharifistan is which adds to the creepy nature that should not have a place on the NS forums.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

I literally never accused someone of being a sexist, the comment I assume you're trying to link is me being scared about what the word "honored" meant in that context (Since the user who made the "We must honor women in history" comment is known for his creepy conduct, including spamming me with Telegrams, borderline sexual innuendos, etc that hopefully moderation has already dealt with). Moreover, the point of that comment was that accusing r*pe victims of being "sirens" and being liars (like this user has implied repeatedly, not just in this occassion) is a disgusting thing to do, because it frankly is a disgusting thing to do.

Note: You can get the link to a specific post if you click the white note thingy next to the name of the poster.
Note 2: It's Tamakuni, not Tamakumi.

Also, I don't want to point fingers but I invite Moderation to investigate if Louisiane Libre is just an alternate account of Sharifistan because, looking at the former's post history, it sprung back to life after 10 days just to make this post accusing me of things I am not doing.

I never said "rape victims are sirens" and I said before that she was not a rape victim so clearly my comment was not directed at rape victims as a whole as I did not consider her one.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

I literally never accused someone of being a sexist, the comment I assume you're trying to link is me being scared about what the word "honored" meant in that context (Since the user who made the "We must honor women in history" comment is known for his creepy conduct, including spamming me with Telegrams, borderline sexual innuendos, etc that hopefully moderation has already dealt with). Moreover, the point of that comment was that accusing r*pe victims of being "sirens" and being liars (like this user has implied repeatedly, not just in this occassion) is a disgusting thing to do, because it frankly is a disgusting thing to do.

Note: You can get the link to a specific post if you click the white note thingy next to the name of the poster.
Note 2: It's Tamakuni, not Tamakumi.

Also, I don't want to point fingers but I invite Moderation to investigate if Louisiane Libre is just an alternate account of Sharifistan because, looking at the former's post history, it sprung back to life after 10 days just to make this post accusing me of things I am not doing.

I felt you were misrepresent me.
Is there an inkling of proof that the girl was a rape victim?
Also did you or did you not ask "everyone" to block me? constituting harassment

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

In light of this happening in the thread, I would like to state that this is all due to a particular user getting increasingly creepy and awkward, and borderline violating the PG-13 rule.

Some examples (I have snipped off some parts from original quotes):

There is no proof that Virginia Giufre was raped

Uni students and high school sophomores (16-22) are cute*

*I'm 17 by the way

Young college girls are hot (i'm 17 btw)

This is after another user has told him to stop it.

1) I don’t care.
2) I don’t want to since I don’t go publicly professing my personal tastes in an attractive partner.
3) Yes but keep that in your head and not on the forums.

/skip

As far as I know saying "cute" or "hot" would be ok on Carton Network let alone a PG-13.

Also I don't think mentioning rape is against the rules since it comes up in NS issues.

[Tamakuni]

I literally never accused someone of being a sexist, the comment I assume you're trying to link is me being scared about what the word "honored" meant in that context (Since the user who made the "We must honor women in history" comment is known for his creepy conduct, including spamming me with Telegrams, borderline sexual innuendos, etc that hopefully moderation has already dealt with). Moreover, the point of that comment was that accusing r*pe victims of being "sirens" and being liars (like this user has implied repeatedly, not just in this occassion) is a disgusting thing to do, because it frankly is a disgusting thing to do.

Note: You can get the link to a specific post if you click the white note thingy next to the name of the poster.
Note 2: It's Tamakuni, not Tamakumi.

Also, I don't want to point fingers but I invite Moderation to investigate if Louisiane Libre is just an alternate account of Sharifistan because, looking at the former's post history, it sprung back to life after 10 days just to make this post accusing me of things I am not doing.

I never said "rape victims are sirens" and I said before that she was not a rape victim so clearly my comment was not directed at rape victims as a whole as I did not consider her one.

I literally never accused someone of being a sexist, the comment I assume you're trying to link is me being scared about what the word "honored" meant in that context (Since the user who made the "We must honor women in history" comment is known for his creepy conduct, including spamming me with Telegrams, borderline sexual innuendos, etc that hopefully moderation has already dealt with). Moreover, the point of that comment was that accusing r*pe victims of being "sirens" and being liars (like this user has implied repeatedly, not just in this occassion) is a disgusting thing to do, because it frankly is a disgusting thing to do.

Note: You can get the link to a specific post if you click the white note thingy next to the name of the poster.
Note 2: It's Tamakuni, not Tamakumi.

Also, I don't want to point fingers but I invite Moderation to investigate if Louisiane Libre is just an alternate account of Sharifistan because, looking at the former's post history, it sprung back to life after 10 days just to make this post accusing me of things I am not doing.

I felt you were misrepresent me.
Is there an inkling of proof that the girl was a rape victim?
Also did you or did you not ask "everyone" to block me? constituting harassment

You called Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein's victims, a siren.
Asking everyone to block you isn't harassment, it's because literally everyone in that thread is tired of your creepy conduct and your attitude against anyone who says that you talking about young women that way and in so many occasions is creepy (It is creepy).
Edit: What does constitute as harassment is you sending me multiple Telegrams in a row just because I said what you're doing is creepy and you saying a borderline sexual innuendo.

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

I never said "rape victims are sirens" and I said before that she was not a rape victim so clearly my comment was not directed at rape victims as a whole as I did not consider her one.

I felt you were misrepresent me.
Is there an inkling of proof that the girl was a rape victim?
Also did you or did you not ask "everyone" to block me? constituting harassment

You called Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein's victims, a siren.
Asking everyone to block you isn't harassment, it's because literally everyone in that thread is tired of your creepy conduct and your attitude against anyone who says that you talking about young women that way and in so many occasions is creepy (It is creepy).
Edit: What does constitute as harassment is you sending me multiple Telegrams in a row just because I said what you're doing is creepy and you saying a borderline sexual innuendo.

I meant her seemingly consensual encounter with British Duke and Royal Navy veteran Prince Andrew not the associating known sex trafficker thing.
Also is there proof she was forced?
The "everyone" is fed up with me thing is subjective, one individual complimented me on my rhetorical ability.
Also asking people to shun someone is harassment. They can block me if you want but why tell them to?

[Champagne Socialist Sharifistan]

Tamakuni GF

- Slutty

- Confrontational

- manipulative

- entitled

Adding on to the evidence already presented, Sharifistan, using their puppet 'Ideal Britain', attacked Tamakuni's character in an attempt to incite them in the AN BF/GF thread.

16-19 year old girls are cuter than girls over 30

16 year old girls are hot

16 year old girls are cute

Uploading pictures of 13-17 year old girls in bikinis(the pictures were taken with their consent)

More evidence to add to Valentine's existing examples. This just isn't normal and is most certainly not something suitable for this site. This comes up too many times to be treated as a 'wave-off' and besides, there is no guarantee we know how old Sharifistan is which adds to the creepy nature that should not have a place on the NS forums.

One of the posts (the 13 one) was on Your nation's punishment for the above crime and i'm not the only one who occasionally brings up sex crimes. Mentioning a crime doesn't mean you endorse it, by that "logic" the other guy would be at fault for mentioning Epstein.

Also 16 year olds are legal in most countries, 16 year old women/girls are about as cognitively mature as 18 year old men/boys.
and calling someone cute is not explicit

[Farnhamia]

I see nothing actionable against Tamakuni here, so the original report is dismissed. Nor is telling people in a thread to block you actionable unless it is part of a wider pattern across multiple threads.

Champagne Socialist Sharifistan was warned game-side for the harassing telegrams to Tamakuni.

CSS: Regardless of what is or is not legal, we advise you in the strongest terms to stop posting your fascination with, attraction to ... however you want to put it ... teenage girls. We do not tolerate any sort of sexual role-play or "locker room talk."

[Katganistan]

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=472645&start=2800
Tamakumi implicitly accuses another user of being sexist without any reasons or context and then does an implied strawman making accusations of victim-blaming when it was clear that this was not the case as evidenced by a post on the same page

Let's not use sock puppets to accuse others.

Tamakuni was talking about YOU, Champagne Socialist Sharifistan. Using a puppet to make a report concerning yourself as if it is a third party making that report is dishonest.

[Tamakuni]

I really will refuse talking about this topic further as I have said everything I wanted to say and I won't waste my time talking with someone like the individual who reported me.

[Katganistan]

You of course have the opportunity to ignore telegrams from them and foe them; if they evade and attempt to contact you with those with new acccounts, file a GHR and we'll take care of it.