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[R] Flamebait in the Good Christians thread

Postby Atheris » Wed May 20, 2020 10:08 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Why? The people who are being least civil are some holding themselves up as the examples of good Christians.


We aren’t, but I doubt you’d fucking care lmao


Seems to be trying to goad Kat into responding.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Wed May 20, 2020 11:45 pm

Andechs-Sisebut wrote:
Katganistan wrote:You are being obnxious. Stop telling me what I am, since this is the third time you've done so.

No, you are obnoxious. People here seem to believe pissing people off is the cardinal sin, so why don’t you play pretend Catholic by yourself, out of my sight.

I don't think this is appropriate.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed May 20, 2020 11:49 pm

I would like to report flamebaiting by the player reported just above (I took longer than I thought to type) in the same thread (cut to the relevant portions; emphases mine):
Andechs-Sisebut wrote:This is whole lot of nothing, with so many words you say exactly the same things without addressing what I said. In the final case you are just obtuse and jumping at an error in my writing.

Andechs-Sisebut wrote:This is why we have the Church, which you reject, because you don’t know what you’re talking about.


Also, I think saying this to another player might count too:
Andechs-Sisebut wrote:And, to put it quite frankly, you just went off the deep end.


This also seems a bit of a personal attack, too (context left in):
Andechs-Sisebut wrote:
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You don't get to tell me or anyone else to leave the thread. You also perhaps should review the rules of this site, since you seem very unfamiliar with them.

You’re a Moderator but have 0 self-awareness. Perhaps you’d like to review what you’ve said to me, then, if the rules so concern you; because the most I’ve said is that you aren’t a Catholic, you’ve quite a bit farther. :)
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Postby Jedi Council » Wed May 20, 2020 11:55 pm

Andechs-Sisebut wrote:
Katganistan wrote:
You don't get to tell me or anyone else to leave the thread. You also perhaps should review the rules of this site, since you seem very unfamiliar with them.

You’re a Moderator but have 0 self-awareness. Perhaps you’d like to review what you’ve said to me, then, if the rules so concern you; because the most I’ve said is that you aren’t a Catholic, you’ve gone quite a bit farther. :)


Emphasis mine, seems pretty off side.

EDIT: Joy beat me to it!
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Postby Andechs-Sisebut » Thu May 21, 2020 12:24 am

South Odreria 2 wrote:
Andechs-Sisebut wrote:No, you are obnoxious. People here seem to believe pissing people off is the cardinal sin, so why don’t you play pretend Catholic by yourself, out of my sight.

I don't think this is appropriate.

You do realise that Katganistan says, ‘ You are being obnxious’ right there.

As for FJS, they knew exactly what I was saying, and were deliberately obtuse about it. And they didn’t know what they were talking about, that can’t be put any simpler.
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Postby Andechs-Sisebut » Thu May 21, 2020 12:31 am

Besides, Katganistan was not very nice neither. :( :(
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Thu May 21, 2020 12:39 am

More:
Andechs-Sisebut wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I am very self-aware thank you. I am also quite aware that you've spent all evening attacking me personally rather than what I have said, whereas I have attacked your behavior and your argument and not you personally.

You shouldn’t be able to leech the credence of being a Catholic on the topic Catholicism when you are most emphatically opposed to the Catholic Church. I’m glad I pointed out so that every knows you oppose Catholic teaching. Sorry. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Postby The Free Joy State » Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 am

More (admits attacking another poster, and calling a poster the n-word (which, even in this form can still be a slur, I believe)
Andechs-Sisebut wrote:I’m going to be real with you, chief, and probably the only post you could construe to breaking the rules.

There are definitions for what makes a Catholic, what makes a Christian. No one just gets to say they’re this or that if they’re outside that definition. I assent to all the teachings of His Church, even ones I have trouble assenting to, I try to live according to the definition I provided on page 5. I am not a good Catholic, but at least I am one. This cannot be said for Katganistan, who has repeatedly opposed the teachings of the Catholic Church. At best, she’s a nominal Catholic.

You seemed to think I was obnoxious and arrogant when I was polite, patient and soft-spoken on page 17, so I don’t really care if you think so. I never said I was the only Christian here? Nowhere, it doesn’t exist. Luminesa, Felrik, Salus, Joohan, etc. even Pope Francis (of course) who was wrong about the death penalty, is a true Christian. I attack Katganistan because she doesn’t believe the teachings of the Catholic Church, yet has the gall to present herself as a Catholic.

Now, onto you. You expect to be pampered with validation or something, everything you do must be acceptable, even if it goes contrary to God. No, nigga, you should humble yourself instead of telling others how ‘obnoxious and arrogant’ they are. Even when I wasn’t abrasive, I was ‘obnoxious and arrogant’! No, what you want is what every atheist in this thread wants, Catholics and Christians to be apathetic and pushovers so that you can force your beliefs on them. Take a page out of your own book: ‘ You'd do well to consider people human and worthy of respect beyond merely those that flatter your own prejudices.’

Goodnight and God bless you all regardless.

This, too, context left in:
Andechs-Sisebut wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Calling someone ugly would be a personal attack not related to behaviour. For example.

How about ‘go shit in a hat’?
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Postby Jedi Council » Thu May 21, 2020 1:11 am

Andechs-Sisebut wrote:
...Now, onto you. You expect to be pampered with validation or something, everything you do must be acceptable, even if it goes contrary to God. No, nigga, you should humble yourself instead of telling others how ‘obnoxious and arrogant’ they are. Even when I wasn’t abrasive, I was ‘obnoxious and arrogant’!....


Pretty sure the N-word is a no go zone right?

EDIT: Ninja'd by Joy again
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Postby Andechs-Sisebut » Thu May 21, 2020 1:12 am

Katganistan wrote:
Andechs-Sisebut wrote:Good morning to everyone!


1. Disciplining your child is not evil. If you intend to discipline, then you ought to do what is necessary. Slapping their hand, spanking their bottom, etc.
2. If someone truly follows God, and becomes a ‘Good Christian’, then they’re necessarily a moral person.
3. The Church condemns forced conversions because those forced to convert do not genuinely worship God; therefore, it is better that they arrive to the faith without violence. It is written in the Catechism of the Catholic Church
The duty of offering God genuine worship concerns man both individually and socially. This is "the traditional Catholic teaching on the moral duty of individuals and societies toward the true religion and the one Church of Christ."30 By constantly evangelizing men, the Church works toward enabling them "to infuse the Christian spirit into the mentality and mores, laws and structures of the communities in which [they] live."31 The social duty of Christians is to respect and awaken in each man the love of the true and the good. It requires them to make known the worship of the one true religion which subsists in the Catholic and apostolic Church.32 Christians are called to be the light of the world. Thus, the Church shows forth the kingship of Christ over all creation and in particular over human societies.33
2106 "Nobody may be forced to act against his convictions, nor is anyone to be restrained from acting in accordance with his conscience in religious matters in private or in public, alone or in association with others, within due limits."34 This right is based on the very nature of the human person, whose dignity enables him freely to assent to the divine truth which transcends the temporal order. For this reason it "continues to exist even in those who do not live up to their obligation of seeking the truth and adhering to it."35

4. There different types of love. But the pertinent ‘love’ is wishing good-will on your fellow man.
5. No, I don’t think I did. I said, ‘the commandments’. Yes, the Decalogue are commandments, but all that God commands is a commandment.

You do not believe the teaching of the Catholic Church, you’re not Catholic.

I am a Catholic, and you can go shit in your hat.

Take your time for research lmao
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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu May 21, 2020 8:17 pm

... Wow. Okay. So we've got a lot of history to unpack here, including a known history of harassing Kat and endlessly flamebaiting her. (And, well, anyone not "Catholic enough" for the guy.)

So, here's what we're gonna do.

*** Felrik, 1-month forumban, while the rest of the team (sans Kat for obvious conflict of interest reasons) discusses whether your history merits going to Delete-On-Sight. ***

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Postby Atheris » Thu May 21, 2020 8:20 pm

Thank you, Evil Forum Empress Rep Prod the Ninja Mod, She who wields the Banhammer; master of the mighty moderation no-dachi Kiritateru Teikoku.
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Postby Green October Z » Thu May 21, 2020 9:09 pm

Just curious, is my thread going to be unlocked? Or is it so polluted with sin rules violations that it is beyond salvation?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu May 21, 2020 9:15 pm

Green October Z wrote:Just curious, is my thread going to be unlocked? Or is it so polluted with sin rules violations that it is beyond salvation?

Eh, kinda has gone off the rails a bit, and the topic itself unfortunately does lend itself to... well, trainwrecks like the reported. >_< Probably better to leave it locked at this point, sorry!
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Postby Green October Z » Thu May 21, 2020 9:16 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Green October Z wrote:Just curious, is my thread going to be unlocked? Or is it so polluted with sin rules violations that it is beyond salvation?

Eh, kinda has gone off the rails a bit, and the topic itself unfortunately does lend itself to... well, trainwrecks like the reported. >_< Probably better to leave it locked at this point, sorry!


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