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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:41 pm

As one of the reported parties, I'm responding here in my own defense.

Thermodolia wrote:I’m gender critical


"Gender critical" is the politically correct term for TERF.

Furthermore,

Thermodolia wrote:The mother is playing to these horrible stereotypes about women and men. It’s quite frankly patriarchal bullshit that the mother is spreading. Call me a TERF if ya want but that’s the cold hard truth.


Emphasis added.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:43 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’m gender critical


"Gender critical" is the politically correct term for TERF.

Furthermore,

Thermodolia wrote:The mother is playing to these horrible stereotypes about women and men. It’s quite frankly patriarchal bullshit that the mother is spreading. Call me a TERF if ya want but that’s the cold hard truth.


Emphasis added.

Ya that was rhetorical. I really wasn’t asking you to call me a TERF nor am I gender critical, well not in the TERF way. I’m critical of the idea that sex and gender are separate
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
"Gender critical" is the politically correct term for TERF.

Furthermore,



Emphasis added.

Ya that was rhetorical. I really wasn’t asking you to call me a TERF nor am I gender critical, well not in the TERF way. I’m critical of the idea that sex and gender are separate


Which is exactly the same way TERFs are "gender critical". And you've explicitly stated you're gender critical, which, again, is synonymous with TERF.

If we can't call a TERF a TERF, what's next, not being able to call a racist a racist?
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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:55 pm

Like I said, I was just responding to the word "TERF" and not to the OP of this thread
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:59 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Ya that was rhetorical. I really wasn’t asking you to call me a TERF nor am I gender critical, well not in the TERF way. I’m critical of the idea that sex and gender are separate


Which is exactly the same way TERFs are "gender critical". And you've explicitly stated you're gender critical, which, again, is synonymous with TERF.

I wasn’t meaning in the way you think. And you don’t have to be a feminist to believe what I believe. Hell im very much not a feminist.

If we can't call a TERF a TERF, what's next, not being able to call a racist a racist?

Maybe don’t flame someone who was just taking the piss?

And I’m not gonna get dragged into a debate here
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:03 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Which is exactly the same way TERFs are "gender critical". And you've explicitly stated you're gender critical, which, again, is synonymous with TERF.

I wasn’t meaning in the way you think. And you don’t have to be a feminist to believe what I believe. Hell im very much not a feminist.


Neither are TERFs. And, you sure as hell like to use their rhetoric.

If we can't call a TERF a TERF, what's next, not being able to call a racist a racist?

Maybe don’t flame someone who was just taking the piss?


1. Calling you a TERF isn't a flame.
2. Threadstalking me isn't "just taking the piss".
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:07 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I wasn’t meaning in the way you think. And you don’t have to be a feminist to believe what I believe. Hell im very much not a feminist.


Neither are TERFs. And, you sure as hell like to use their rhetoric.

:roll: Broken clock

Maybe don’t flame someone who was just taking the piss?


1. Calling you a TERF isn't a flame.
2. Threadstalking me isn't "just taking the piss".

I’m not threadstalking you dude. I don’t have the time to do that, nor do I care about you that much.

Now I’m not gonna engage you any more
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Postby Audioslavia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:13 pm

End the shitfight now. Let me have a read.

EDIT: Seeing as it's in the Election Headquarters forum, and I've been campaigning (however lazily) for someone else, I'll flag down another mod for this.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:33 pm

Blood Wine has received a 1 day ban.

Grenartia, Thermodolia - stop snarking at each other. I suggest ignoring each other until this election is over.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:46 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Blood Wine has received a 1 day ban.

Grenartia, Thermodolia - stop snarking at each other. I suggest ignoring each other until this election is over.

I request a second option on the things I reported Gren for.

They agreed with what Blood Wine posted
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:50 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Blood Wine has received a 1 day ban.

Grenartia, Thermodolia - stop snarking at each other. I suggest ignoring each other until this election is over.

I request a second option on the things I reported Gren for.

They agreed with what Blood Wine posted


Because I really didn't see how its actionable in any way. Honestly, I still don't. Its just a harmless meme.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:37 pm

Grenartia wrote:Its just a harmless meme.

I'm not going to rule on the request for second opinion, but I will comment on this:

There is no excuse based on the idea that it's "a harmless meme" on this site. "Send nudes" is "a harmless meme". "Dicks out for Harambe" is "a harmless meme". The Navy Seals copypasta is "a harmless meme". Team America's theme song is "a harmless meme". "Hitler did nothing wrong" is "a harmless meme". None of those are welcome on this site.

Don't ever use "it's just a harmless meme" as a defense for posting content on this site. Period.
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:46 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Its just a harmless meme.

I'm not going to rule on the request for second opinion, but I will comment on this:

There is no excuse based on the idea that it's "a harmless meme" on this site. "Send nudes" is "a harmless meme". "Dicks out for Harambe" is "a harmless meme". The Navy Seals copypasta is "a harmless meme". Team America's theme song is "a harmless meme". "Hitler did nothing wrong" is "a harmless meme". None of those are welcome on this site.

Don't ever use "it's just a harmless meme" as a defense for posting content on this site. Period.


For the record, I'm fairly sure I've seen Team America's theme song posted here before. Also, I didn't use it as a defense for posting the meme, because I did not post the meme, Blood Wine did. I simply thanked him for posting it. And again, I had no idea it would be seen as actionable, and I'm sure Blood Wine didn't, either (though I'll leave it up to him to conduct his own appeal). If I had anticipated it being actionable, I would not have thanked him for posting it. But I had no reason to think it would be actionable.
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