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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:01 pm

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Calling people parasites doesn't exactly sound like it's allowed here.
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Postby Lamoni » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:15 pm

This reads more like a debatable point, rather than flaming. Unless you can point me to a rich British Subject who is willing to come in this thread and claim that they are being flamed. Not actionable.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:42 am

Lamoni wrote:This reads more like a debatable point, rather than flaming. Unless you can point me to a rich British Subject who is willing to come in this thread and claim that they are being flamed. Not actionable.

I can point you to myself. I am a rich british subject who believes it is flaming.
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Postby Audioslavia » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:51 am

Sorry to rattle your top-hat, GVH, but this isn't actionable.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:23 pm

So the person who was actually flamed was good enough to inform me of a warning he received some time ago, in which the mod in question stated that referring to a group of people as paracites was against the rules. Please could a moderator explain to me the difference in these two situations?

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:01 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:So the person who was actually flamed was good enough to inform me of a warning he received some time ago, in which the mod in question stated that referring to a group of people as paracites was against the rules. Please could a moderator explain to me the difference in these two situations?

viewtopic.php?p=35962843&sid=8ec94ad1c83f272f7859a3c05db1fcd7#p35962843

Trolling, not flaming. I overrule the Not Actionable decision: viewtopic.php?p=36518692#p36518692
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:03 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:So the person who was actually flamed was good enough to inform me of a warning he received some time ago, in which the mod in question stated that referring to a group of people as paracites was against the rules. Please could a moderator explain to me the difference in these two situations?

viewtopic.php?p=35962843&sid=8ec94ad1c83f272f7859a3c05db1fcd7#p35962843

Trolling, not flaming. I overrule the Not Actionable decision: viewtopic.php?p=36518692#p36518692

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:40 pm

Political nicknaming.

Definitely Not Trumptonium wrote:At this time in 24 hours I predict Sunderland Central announces first with a less than 5-10% majority for Labour.

Labour and Channel 4 goes into full meltdown mode and we begin to see crying on TV as they progressively appear conscious to the news that North England doesn't want Magic Grandpa with his Latte solutions to mug of tea problems.

Tories end up winning somewhere between 340 and 400 seats, probably like 355. Though I don't know about the Lib Dem factor, so I'll just say the other way round, Labour will win somewhere between 250 and 190 seats, most likely around 220.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:15 pm

New Bremerton wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=36522729#p36522729

viewtopic.php?p=36522824#p36522824

Flaming.

Same poster, same thread, same flame:
viewtopic.php?p=36522979#p36522979
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 6:40 pm

New Bremerton wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=36522729#p36522729

viewtopic.php?p=36522824#p36522824

Flaming.

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
New Bremerton wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=36522729#p36522729

viewtopic.php?p=36522824#p36522824

Flaming.

Same poster, same thread, same flame:
viewtopic.php?p=36522979#p36522979

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Postby Gormwood » Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:30 am

So calling Corbyn Magic Grandpa is not political nicknaming.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:41 am

Gormwood wrote:So calling Corbyn Magic Grandpa is not political nicknaming.

Never assume that our slowness in ruling means that the reported post does not break the rules.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:39 am

So is it against the rules or not?
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:14 pm

Gormwood wrote:So is it against the rules or not?

Rules-lawyering is.

Individual cases, as you well know, are judged individually. In this specific case, I'm going to say no, it's not actionable. This does not apply in any way, shape or even form to any other sort of political nicknaming, because, individual cases ... well, you get it. :eyebrow: Don't you?
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