[R]Repeated Harassment/Flamebaiting

[Torrocca]

I know that definitely should've reported these sooner rather than respond at all, especially in the way I have which didn't help anything except contribute to it, but I'm not really all there right now and it's been fucking nerve-wracking to even think about this because I'll just be on the receiving end of even more of it. Anyways, it starts here, in response to me simply questioning their debate tactic of gaslighting another user for calling out a pair of contradictory statements:

Could you possibly gaslight somebody any more blatantly than this?

Day 67 of you having said you will block me and having failed to do so since. I'm starting to think you view our interactions as some sort of internet based abusive relationship/co-dependency dynamic; it's just sad on your part.

lol, 0/10 on that bait

That would imply I find you worth my time; you're not. I find your insistent efforts to garner my attention annoying at best, especially since you've previously signaled you find yourself unable to engage me in good faith. If I'm your entire Raison d'être of being here, you really need to reevaluate not just why you're here, but your own mental well being as a whole because your obsession with me is unhealthy.

lol

...and this is exactly my point, you're juvenile on your best day and never make an effort to conduct an actual interaction. You only seek to stir up enough shit to then attempt to play a victim, before running off to moderation. You've indicated before you're either a recent high school graduate or early on in your College career; start acting like it.

This post in particular, of course, was the straw that broke the camel's back that he then tried to hide via editing:

For someone who keeps trying to paint me as irrationally obsessed over you because reasons, you sure have a particularly ironic habit of way-too-frequently essentially saying, "TORRA!!! TORRA STOP OBSESSING OVER ME!!! TORRA WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH ME??? TORRA!!! TORRA I'M GOING TO TRY AND EVALUATE THE ENTIRE HISTORY AND EXTENT OF YOUR MENTAL CAPACITY OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE YOU SAID 'lol' IN RESPONSE TO ME REPETITIOUSLY HOUNDING YOU OVER YOUR OBSESSIONS ABOUT ME THAT I CONTINUOUSLY CLAIM YOU HAVE WITH NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER!!! TORRA PLS," and then insulting me wantonly when I don't bother acknowledging your bait in the way that you want me to and playing your game.

And, again, you prove my point; I've been consistently saying for months now you to follow through with blocking me like you have repeatedly said because any sort of dialogue with you is non-functional on your end. If I was playing some sort of "game" with you, that would be extremely counter-productive and the fact you seem to believe that I do so furthers my point about an unhealthy obsession you have with me. I know you've told on some of the NSG related Discords that you're on that you suffer from mental health issues, and I urge you to stop, objectively consider what you're doing and then relate it to those issues you suffer; you're not doing yourself any favors by continuing this.

In fact, this particular brand of harassment runs at least as early as August and hasn't stopped regardless of any attempts at good-faith debate I've tried making in the sparse amount of interactions I've had as of late with this user; though, again, I went against better judgments and didn't really bother reporting it, partially because at the time it didn't feel like it met the criteria for such a thing, and partially because I didn't want to receive even further harassment from this particular user and his friends for speaking my mind.

And, yes, in fact, this group harassment toward has been exactly that, as in this example, for instance.

All in all, I'm pretty fed up with it all, I'm not in a good mood mentally, I've been using utterly shit judgment regarding this shit that has done absolutely nothing to help and has done a lot more to exacerbate the issue or even create more issues, and I'd just really like for an end to be brought to it all.

[Totally Not OEP]

I'm honestly at a loss for words at this one, because it's so blatantly wrong.

First, it's pretty rich to claim harassment when they started the entire conversation:

Where did I lie? You're attempting to construct some sort of "gotcha", obviously, but you're making no coherent statements or connections therein.

Could you possibly gaslight somebody any more blatantly than this?

They've also linked to a conversation almost four months ago as further proof of me engaging in harassment; again, this is rather rich, because they too started that conversation. For the claims of harassment to be valid, it's certainly weird I never start any sort of dialogue with them, but they instead are always the instigator?

Further, one need only look at my posts, where I repeatedly ask the user to follow through with their past claim that they would block me, as dialogue is no longer possible between us:

That would imply I find you worth my time; you're not. I find your insistent efforts to garner my attention annoying at best, especially since you've previously signaled you find yourself unable to engage me in good faith. If I'm your entire Raison d'être of being here, you really need to reevaluate not just why you're here, but your own mental well being as a whole because your obsession with me is unhealthy.

And, again, you prove my point; I've been consistently saying for months now you need to follow through with blocking me like you have repeatedly said because any sort of dialogue has become non-functional on your end. If I was playing some sort of "game" with you, the aforementioned would be extremely counter-productive to that end. The fact you seem to believe that I do this furthers my point about an unhealthy obsession you have with me.

Again, if I was attempting to engage in Harassment and or flamebaiting, telling them to block me would rather defeat my alleged goal, no? Hell, if that's not enough, I even ended the interaction with asking them to refrain from any further discussions with me:

I think we've reached an end to this conversation and I request you never start another with me again.

On the matter of the mental health claims, as I noted here said claims were posted in an NSG related Discord:

The fact I edited it out before they even posted should speak volumes; after some reflection, given they haven't posted that information here, I figured that was something they didn't want known directly on the forums and decided to respect that. Only reason I initially said it was because the aforementioned Discords were openly NSG related.

The claim that I tried to hide them is laughably false, as evidenced by the posting times freely available on said posts. Here's mine:


And here's theirs:


As you can look at the times, I had already edited out the information before they posted.

It should also be pointed out they engaged in both troll naming/flaming twice:

lol, 0/10 on that bait

For someone who keeps trying to paint me as irrationally obsessed over you because reasons, you sure have a particularly ironic habit of way-too-frequently essentially saying, "TORRA!!! TORRA STOP OBSESSING OVER ME!!! TORRA WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH ME??? TORRA!!! TORRA I'M GOING TO TRY AND EVALUATE THE ENTIRE HISTORY AND EXTENT OF YOUR MENTAL CAPACITY OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE YOU SAID 'lol' IN RESPONSE TO ME REPETITIOUSLY HOUNDING YOU OVER YOUR OBSESSIONS ABOUT ME THAT I CONTINUOUSLY CLAIM YOU HAVE WITH NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER!!! TORRA PLS," and then insulting me wantonly when I don't bother acknowledging your bait in the way that you want me to and playing your game.

Mods, finally, I'd like to leave with pointing out exactly as I did in that thread and as I do now. This user is accusing me of harassment when, in every conversation, they initiated it and in this one in particular I repeatedly asked them to block me before finally ending it by telling them to not contact me again. Notice how they continued to engage with me and have a pattern of doing so; it's quite clear it's borderline harassment on their part towards me, if not flamebaiting in of itself. Take in note, for example, the continued use of passive aggressive sarcasm which is not being done in good faith; I think any user can see that when just "lol" is being used in a response to a post.

Also, something else that catches my eye is this:


Notice how this report was only made after I asked them not to contact me anymore. It's a quite transparent attempt to stir up issues by this user, as, if they really found anything I posted objectionable, it's really interesting they only waited until after I made clear I would no longer talk to them. It, combined with their continued engagement with me in said thread and past threads, speaks volumes about who is really harassing who here.

[Torrocca]

I'm only gonna reply once, here, so as to provide a greater deal of context for the mods. Anyway:

I'm honestly at a loss for words at this one, because it's so blatantly wrong.

First, it's pretty rich to claim harassment when they started the entire conversation:

Could you possibly gaslight somebody any more blatantly than this?

You immediately replied to me asking a question about your debating tactics by flamebaiting me with a lie that I ever claimed I was going to block you, which can be disproven by looking through my posting history with keywords such as "block, "ignore," or "foe"; I'm assuming you're basing it off the fact that I put Nova Cyberia - who's a DOS who's been noted to have been harassing me as well and who openly acknowledged the same coming from you - on my foe's list and said so on this very forum.

In fact, your very first post that I quoted, claiming it's been 67 days since I supposedly claimed I'd be blocking you, means that I'd supposedly claimed to be blocking you on September 21st. You've been harassing me with this lie in response to any of my posts since at least August of this year, if not earlier.

They've also linked to a conversation almost four months ago as further proof of me engaging in harassment; again, this is rather rich, because they too started that conversation. For the claims of harassment to be valid, it's certainly weird I never start any sort of dialogue with them, but they instead are always the instigator?

I, again, linked that as another example of the flamebaiting that you've chosen to repeatedly engage me with, based off a lie of your own making, in response to any attempts I've tried making over the past few months at any kind of good-faith discussion.

Further, one need only look at my posts, where I repeatedly ask the user to follow through with their past claim that they would block me, as dialogue is no longer possible between us:

That would imply I find you worth my time; you're not. I find your insistent efforts to garner my attention annoying at best, especially since you've previously signaled you find yourself unable to engage me in good faith. If I'm your entire Raison d'être of being here, you really need to reevaluate not just why you're here, but your own mental well being as a whole because your obsession with me is unhealthy.

And, again, you prove my point; I've been consistently saying for months now you need to follow through with blocking me like you have repeatedly said because any sort of dialogue has become non-functional on your end. If I was playing some sort of "game" with you, the aforementioned would be extremely counter-productive to that end. The fact you seem to believe that I do this furthers my point about an unhealthy obsession you have with me.

See above.

Again, if I was attempting to engage in Harassment and or flamebaiting, telling them to block me would rather defeat my alleged goal, no? Hell, if that's not enough, I even ended the interaction with asking them to refrain from any further discussions with me:

I think we've reached an end to this conversation and I request you never start another with me again.

On the matter of the mental health claims, as I noted here said claims were posted in an NSG related Discord:


The claim that I tried to hide them is laughably false, as evidenced by the posting times freely available on said posts. Here's mine:

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And here's theirs:

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As you can look at the times, I had already edited out the information before they posted.

Those screen captures only show that you had edited your post a minute after I'd made mine, not that you edited the information out before you posted.

It should also be pointed out they engaged in both troll naming/flaming twice:

lol, 0/10 on that bait

For someone who keeps trying to paint me as irrationally obsessed over you because reasons, you sure have a particularly ironic habit of way-too-frequently essentially saying, "TORRA!!! TORRA STOP OBSESSING OVER ME!!! TORRA WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH ME??? TORRA!!! TORRA I'M GOING TO TRY AND EVALUATE THE ENTIRE HISTORY AND EXTENT OF YOUR MENTAL CAPACITY OVER THE INTERNET BECAUSE YOU SAID 'lol' IN RESPONSE TO ME REPETITIOUSLY HOUNDING YOU OVER YOUR OBSESSIONS ABOUT ME THAT I CONTINUOUSLY CLAIM YOU HAVE WITH NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER!!! TORRA PLS," and then insulting me wantonly when I don't bother acknowledging your bait in the way that you want me to and playing your game.

I've already explained myself for my admittedly irrational rationale behind making those posts. If it's rulebreaking, so be it; I know that I have no good explanation or excuse for making those posts. They were an irrational response to your attacks against me.

Mods, finally, I'd like to leave with pointing out exactly as I did in that thread and as I do now. This user is accusing me of harassment when, in every conversation, they initiated it and in this one in particular I repeatedly asked them to block me before finally ending it by telling them to not contact me again. Notice how they continued to engage with me and have a pattern of doing so; it's quite clear it's borderline harassment on their part towards me, if not flamebaiting in of itself. Take in note, for example, the continued use of passive aggressive sarcasm which is not being done in good faith; I think any user can see that when just "lol" is being used in a response to a post.

I've made numerous attempts to engage in good-faith, albeit unfriendly, debate with you because of utterly egregious statements you've made. You've only ever responded, in these past few months, by making up a lie that I claimed I was blocking you and then belittling and insulting me whenever I've responded further, rather than acknowledge the contents of my posts. Multiple people have told you the worthlessness of the ignore feature every time you've done this; even the moderation team has acknowledged its uselessness on this forum. It's not me who's choosing the path of flamebaiting and harassment in response to attempts at good-faith debate.

Also, something else that catches my eye is this:

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Notice how this report was only made after I asked them not to contact me anymore. It's a quite transparent attempt to stir up issues by this user, as, if they really found anything I posted objectionable, it's really interesting they only waited until after I made clear I would no longer talk to them. It, combined with their continued engagement with me in said thread and past threads, speaks volumes about who is really harassing who here.

I'd started making the report immediately following my reply to your post where you decided to use the fact that I've talked about my mental health on another website to target me. That I only posted this after you said that - having never seen it before I was done making this post - only speaks to the fact that I don't have a superhuman ability to make posts, not that I was making a deliberate, conceited effort to target you in moderation.

That you chose to immediately, yet again after months of this behavior, target me rather than the content of my initial post to you - up to trying to use the fact that I've discussed my own mental health on another website as a weapon against me - simply isn't the fault of anything I've said or done.

[Torrocca]

I think what we've got here is a classic case of a commie being sexually attracted to a right-winger and then trying to cover it up. You can tell by how they continually initiate the conversations and bait and then run to the mods trying to play victim.

Torrocca, just cut the shit and admit that you really wanna fuck OEP. Your poor mental health (aside from being a common trait among communists and far-leftist) is an indication of your repressed sexual feelings.

I see that your group's discord got told about this, Nova Cyberia. I'm glad you could show up with a fresh account made today and help prove my claim to moderation about you, OEP, and others playing a game of targeted harassment against me and other Leftists.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

I think what we've got here is a classic case of a commie being sexually attracted to a right-winger and then trying to cover it up. You can tell by how they continually initiate the conversations and bait and then run to the mods trying to play victim.

Torrocca, just cut the shit and admit that you really wanna fuck OEP. Your poor mental health (aside from being a common trait among communists and far-leftist) is an indication of your repressed sexual feelings.

Personal attacks and unsubstantiated allegations in a report thread? You really want to get DEATed, don't you? Focus on the content, not the poster. But why am I even saying this? It will just fall on deaf ears in cases like these. *Shrug*

[Salus Maior]

I think what we've got here is a classic case of a commie being sexually attracted to a right-winger and then trying to cover it up. You can tell by how they continually initiate the conversations and bait and then run to the mods trying to play victim.

Torrocca, just cut the shit and admit that you really wanna fuck OEP. Your poor mental health (aside from being a common trait among communists and far-leftist) is an indication of your repressed sexual feelings.

Leave this to the mods, why don't you.

Your baseless claims aren't helping anything. Except making this whole conflict even more cringe.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

I think what we've got here is a classic case of a commie being sexually attracted to a right-winger and then trying to cover it up. You can tell by how they continually initiate the conversations and bait and then run to the mods trying to play victim.

Torrocca, just cut the shit and admit that you really wanna fuck OEP. Your poor mental health (aside from being a common trait among communists and far-leftist) is an indication of your repressed sexual feelings.

Leave this to the mods, why don't you.

Your baseless claims aren't helping anything. Except making this whole conflict even more cringe.

Agreed. Let's leave the thread alone until a moderator bothers to respond. Preferably without further defamation, harassment, or ad hominems.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Personal attacks and unsubstantiated allegations in a report thread? You really want to get DEATed, don't you? Focus on the content, not the poster. But why am I even saying this? It will just fall on deaf ears in cases like these. *Shrug*

Personally, I'm glad that such a handsome poster could bring more attention to a cringe commie's sexual fetish for rightoids.

You certainly have a fetish for spamming and sockpuppetry though, which is the definition of cringe.

[Salus Maior]

Personally, I'm glad that such a handsome poster could bring more attention to a cringe commie's sexual fetish for rightoids.

You certainly have a fetish for spamming and sockpuppetry though, which is the definition of cringe.

Why are you still responding to him.

[Israeli Free Nations]

You certainly have a fetish for spamming and sockpuppetry though, which is the definition of cringe.

Why are you still responding to him.

Cuz this is funny af, and it isnt against the rules yet

[ArenaC]

overexaggeration alert

This all is just flaming, I swear. This entire thread.

[Jebslund]

Why are you still responding to him.

Cuz this is funny af, and it isnt against the rules yet

I am not a mod, and this is not a ruling, but...

Spamming moderation, which is what you all are doing (and me, technically, in writing this) is, in fact, against the rules. Responding to obvious spam is still spam, as you are adding nothing to this report thread in doing so. As this is moderation (and, therefore, an area the mods actively look over and thusly need no reports filed on anything in), the best response to this spam is to just sit tight and wait for the mods to deal with it.

[Israeli Free Nations]

Cuz this is funny af, and it isnt against the rules yet

I am not a mod, and this is not a ruling, but...

Spamming moderation, which is what you all are doing (and me, technically, in writing this) is, in fact, against the rules. Responding to obvious spam is still spam, as you are adding nothing to this report thread in doing so. As this is moderation (and, therefore, an area the mods actively look over and thusly need no reports filed on anything in), the best response to this spam is to just sit tight and wait for the mods to deal with it.

perhaps. yes.

[Farnhamia]

I think what we've got here is a classic case of a commie being sexually attracted to a right-winger and then trying to cover it up. You can tell by how they continually initiate the conversations and bait and then run to the mods trying to play victim.

Torrocca, just cut the shit and admit that you really wanna fuck OEP. Your poor mental health (aside from being a common trait among communists and far-leftist) is an indication of your repressed sexual feelings.

Personal attacks and unsubstantiated allegations in a report thread? You really want to get DEATed, don't you? Focus on the content, not the poster. But why am I even saying this? It will just fall on deaf ears in cases like these. *Shrug*

I think what we've got here is a classic case of a commie being sexually attracted to a right-winger and then trying to cover it up. You can tell by how they continually initiate the conversations and bait and then run to the mods trying to play victim.

Torrocca, just cut the shit and admit that you really wanna fuck OEP. Your poor mental health (aside from being a common trait among communists and far-leftist) is an indication of your repressed sexual feelings.

Leave this to the mods, why don't you.

Your baseless claims aren't helping anything. Except making this whole conflict even more cringe.

You certainly have a fetish for spamming and sockpuppetry though, which is the definition of cringe.

Why are you still responding to him.

Why are you still responding to him.

Cuz this is funny af, and it isnt against the rules yet

overexaggeration alert

This all is just flaming, I swear. This entire thread.

Cuz this is funny af, and it isnt against the rules yet

I am not a mod, and this is not a ruling, but...

Spamming moderation, which is what you all are doing (and me, technically, in writing this) is, in fact, against the rules. Responding to obvious spam is still spam, as you are adding nothing to this report thread in doing so. As this is moderation (and, therefore, an area the mods actively look over and thusly need no reports filed on anything in), the best response to this spam is to just sit tight and wait for the mods to deal with it.

I am not a mod, and this is not a ruling, but...

Spamming moderation, which is what you all are doing (and me, technically, in writing this) is, in fact, against the rules. Responding to obvious spam is still spam, as you are adding nothing to this report thread in doing so. As this is moderation (and, therefore, an area the mods actively look over and thusly need no reports filed on anything in), the best response to this spam is to just sit tight and wait for the mods to deal with it.

perhaps. yes.

All of you are *** warned for spamming Moderation. *** What is the matter with you people? One of the most basic tenets of this forums is not butting into report threads that don't concern you, but here you are, jabbering away at an obvious troll and debating among yourselves. What makes it worse is, several of you used to have clean records. Not anymore.

As for the original report, I've raised the subject with my colleagues. Please be patient.