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[R] Possible Trolling in Hell thread

Postby Minachia » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:24 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:
Ors Might wrote:I mean, looking at this from the perspective of someone that believes Hell exists, it’d be pretty fucking negligent to not tell them about the place where they’d suffer complete and utter agony for all eternity if they don’t believe and act the right way.

I personally wouldn’t tell them as I don’t believe in Hell, but I can understand why someone that does would tell their kids about it.

See, this is the problem. There's no such thing as "keeping thy religion to thyself." Religion is a contagious disease that needs to be cut off at the source.

Suppose you have two slanderers. One genuinely believes the misinformation they're peddling. One doesn't. By what standard do you treat them differently?

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Postby The Free Joy State » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:00 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha is sticking with this line of argumentation; likening religion to a mental illness and "disease" seems somewhat problematic (cropped to relevant portions -- emphasis mine)
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Fahran wrote:I can name all sorts of diseases if we're going by such a loose, medically problematic definition

When I took a psychology class, mental illness was defined as being of an abnormal and harmful mental state.

The only difference between it and religion is the "abnormal" part. Which flies in the face of all other diseases; just because everyone else has chicken pox doesn't mean it's not a disease. If anything, it's the conventional definition that's medically problematic.


Fahran wrote:You do know that not all religious people oppose stem cell research, right?

Doesn't matter. By legitimizing religion's continued existence, they're legitimizing the kind of thinking (or non-thinking?) that paved the way for such opposition, causing there to be more where that came from. Nothing short of cutting off the problem at its source will do.


EDIT: Sorry, Farn. Was posting as you were already warning them.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:16 am

This looks like baiting Geneviev (as it's in direct response to Geneviev's OP, refers to a past thread they made and seems to be meant a personal attack -- especially the part about "hypocrisy"). Perhaps a nudge wouldn't be uncalled for?
Vaukiai wrote:Ei, here I am, so you aren't Christian anymore? Look at the guy. Making a topic about the importance of faith in the past, and now he comes doubting about the existence of hell?

Sadly, hypocrisy is one of the biggest problems in today's society.
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Postby Vaukiai » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:18 am

The Free Joy State wrote:This looks like flamebaiting Geneviev (as it's in direct response to Geneviev's OP, refers to a past thread they made and seems to be a personal attack):
Vaukiai wrote:Ei, here I am, so you aren't Christian anymore? Look at the guy. Making a topic about the importance of faith in the past, and now he comes doubting about the existence of hell?

Sadly, hypocrisy is one of the biggest problems in today's society.

No, I am just asking what happened to him. He was making topics about faith and now he makes ones critical of it.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:02 am

This poster has made "repent" comments in threads before; also -- while comments about heaven and hell may be within the scope of the thread, others repentance seems to be beyond the scope and a little personal (previous quote snipped):
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You will repent it.


EDIT: Not as an attempt to argue, but as to why I reported, it seems more like Vaukiai is more interested in threadjacking with pushing his views than answering the question (since he entered the thread here they are yet to post an answer that I've seen). I didn't think it was either trolling, or flaming -- but I can't alter the title of the thread.
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Postby Vaukiai » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:03 am

The Free Joy State wrote:This poster has made "repent" comments in threads before; also -- while comments about heaven and hell may be within the scope of the thread, others repentance seems not to be beyond the scope and a little personal (previous quote snipped):
Vaukiai wrote:
You will repent it.

It's not only for one, but for every unbeliever. It's general.
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Postby UIS Leviathan » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:07 am

The Free Joy State wrote:This poster has made "repent" comments in threads before; also -- while comments about heaven and hell may be within the scope of the thread, others repentance seems to be beyond the scope and a little personal (previous quote snipped):
Vaukiai wrote:
You will repent it.

As the target of that post, I think I’m good to post here.
I don’t see anything wrong with him telling people to repent or saying they will, it’s not flaming or trolling (as far as I’m aware) and I’m not offended at all by it. I’m even really sure what the hell he’s even talking about, honestly, he’s incredibly vague.
I mean if he said “you’ll burn in Hell you ginger fuck” you know that’d be a different story.
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Postby Vaukiai » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:08 am

UIS Leviathan wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:This poster has made "repent" comments in threads before; also -- while comments about heaven and hell may be within the scope of the thread, others repentance seems to be beyond the scope and a little personal (previous quote snipped):

As the target of that post, I think I’m good to post here.
I don’t see anything wrong with him telling people to repent or saying they will, it’s not flaming or trolling (as far as I’m aware) and I’m not offended at all by it. I’m even really sure what the hell he’s even talking about, honestly, he’s incredibly vague.
I mean if he said “you’ll burn in Hell you ginger fuck” you know that’d be a different story.

I think this is one of the few things I'll thank you for...
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:16 am

They are persistently attempting to threadjack, and despite attempts to introduce the topic are determined to only talk about their religious views, and not in relation to the topic, since they returned, here: viewtopic.php?p=36202595#p36202595.

This is their response to an attempt to divert back to the topic:
Vaukiai wrote:Are you talking about Christian God, or Allah, or Perkūnas?


The thread is well on-topic, when they are not active.

EDIT: Thread is currently being well and truly jacked onto antisemitism and its definition: viewtopic.php?p=36202736#p36202736
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Postby Vaukiai » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:25 am

The Free Joy State wrote:They are persistently attempting to threadjack, and despite attempts to introduce the topic are determined to only talk about their religious views, and not in relation to the topic, since they returned, here: viewtopic.php?p=36202595#p36202595.

This is their response to an attempt to divert back to the topic:
Vaukiai wrote:Are you talking about Christian God, or Allah, or Perkūnas?


The thread is well on-topic, when they are not active.

Please could you tell that to the guy that talked about that nonsense of grouping all religions into one?
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Postby Vaukiai » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:05 am

The Free Joy State wrote:EDIT: Thread is currently being well and truly jacked onto antisemitism and its definition: viewtopic.php?p=36202736#p36202736

Also, I have bumped the thread, so it is no longer threadjacked.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:17 am

A new threadjack underway (on the origins of the universe) by Antityranicals, from here: viewtopic.php?p=36202880#p36202880
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:41 pm

Thanks, Reppy!
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