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Postby Gormwood » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:39 am

Calling for the death of a public figure, even if the figure in question is an asshole.

Aragonian Catalonia wrote:Kill him. We dont need that kind of human garbages living in this planet. Zionism is a mental disease
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:41 am

Aragonian Catalonia seems to be advocating death, and the added bit about Zionism being a mental disease strikes me deliberately incendiary and not especially useful to any sort of discussion on Zionism or Rafi Peretz's insensitive statements about assimilation and the Holocaust.

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Beyond that, we've had a couple problems with thread-jacking. I think we're finally steering the conversation back to to the content raised in the original post, but it might still be a good idea to keep an eye on the situation. Discussions on white genocide, Latin America, and the culture of Sub-Saharan Africa seem to go a bit out of bounds. And, yes, I really should stop responding to those, even if it is to say that we need to get back on track.

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Postby Romanian-Slavia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:51 am

I know this guy and I agree with him about some ideas in what he wrote. But I don't agree that killing someone is a solution here. I will talk to him and I hope it won't happen again. : )
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Postby First American Empire » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:58 am

East Kekistan is also advocating for genocide in the same thread.

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Gormwood wrote:Like Germany in the mid 20th century overwhelmingly proved. Pfft.

It could be...if Germans had better weapons. I'm sure many ordinary Germans were interested in owning large houses...which could be achieved if all of East Europe was fully depopulated and distributed to Germans.

Genocide is organized mass murder. Unlike other forms of murder it is a lot more profitable because it is much harder to police a "criminal government" (think of it as an extreme form of organized crime) compared to a criminal person. WWII merely shows what future genocidaires need to overcome. Yes the bar is getting higher and higher but the opportunity to profit from completely obliterating norms always exists.
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Postby EastKekistan » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:01 pm

First American Empire wrote:East Kekistan is also advocating for genocide in the same thread.

EastKekistan wrote:It could be...if Germans had better weapons. I'm sure many ordinary Germans were interested in owning large houses...which could be achieved if all of East Europe was fully depopulated and distributed to Germans.

Genocide is organized mass murder. Unlike other forms of murder it is a lot more profitable because it is much harder to police a "criminal government" (think of it as an extreme form of organized crime) compared to a criminal person. WWII merely shows what future genocidaires need to overcome. Yes the bar is getting higher and higher but the opportunity to profit from completely obliterating norms always exists.


That isn't advocating for genocide at all. Whose death am I calling for? Nobody. Instead it is simply an analysis that shows that the opportunity to profit from breaking social norms including the norms against genocide always exists.
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Postby First American Empire » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:25 pm

You literally just said you wouldn't shed tears for people who get murdered by genocide.

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Fahran wrote:Hence the need for a Palestinian state and a monopoly on the use of violence by the Palestinian nation.


Or give people ethnic states based on the needs that arise.

Hint: The solution to the persecution and assimilation of Jews was not to leave them in Europe where persecution continued even after the Holocaust. The solution to Serbian hegemony in Yugoslavia and the lack of representation for non-Serbs was not to double down on keeping Yugoslavia around. The solution to Greek grumblings about their subjugation under the Ottomans was not to tell them to suck it up and put up with Turkish cultural and political supremacy. The assumption that a state can be neutral on such issues is one the arises from the privilege of belonging to a cultural or ideological hegemony.


The universe does not care about relief of pain. Those who are capable of obtaining ethnostates will do so. Those who aren't will not. Those incapable of keeping themselves from getting exterminated will be exterminated.

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Postby EastKekistan » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:43 pm

First American Empire wrote:You literally just said you wouldn't shed tears for people who get murdered by genocide.

EastKekistan wrote:
The universe does not care about relief of pain. Those who are capable of obtaining ethnostates will do so. Those who aren't will not. Those incapable of keeping themselves from getting exterminated will be exterminated.

No tears shed for Neanderthals.


I would say, let mods judge. That's not the same as calling for death at all.
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Postby Hatterleigh » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:46 pm

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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:37 pm

TBH, the thread has had nothing to do with Peretz shooting his mouth off for several pages now, and probably could be locked.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:13 pm

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:21 pm

Gormwood wrote:Calling for the death of a public figure, even if the figure in question is an asshole.

Aragonian Catalonia wrote:Kill him. We dont need that kind of human garbages living in this planet. Zionism is a mental disease


Fahran wrote:Aragonian Catalonia seems to be advocating death, and the added bit about Zionism being a mental disease strikes me deliberately incendiary and not especially useful to any sort of discussion on Zionism or Rafi Peretz's insensitive statements about assimilation and the Holocaust.

viewtopic.php?p=35929708#p35929708

Beyond that, we've had a couple problems with thread-jacking. I think we're finally steering the conversation back to to the content raised in the original post, but it might still be a good idea to keep an eye on the situation. Discussions on white genocide, Latin America, and the culture of Sub-Saharan Africa seem to go a bit out of bounds. And, yes, I really should stop responding to those, even if it is to say that we need to get back on track.


Romanian-Slavia wrote:I know this guy and I agree with him about some ideas in what he wrote. But I don't agree that killing someone is a solution here. I will talk to him and I hope it won't happen again. : )

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Considering that I suspect you and Aragonia are the same guy, R-S, it had better stop and right quick.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:30 pm

EastKekistan wrote:
First American Empire wrote:East Kekistan is also advocating for genocide in the same thread.



That isn't advocating for genocide at all. Whose death am I calling for? Nobody. Instead it is simply an analysis that shows that the opportunity to profit from breaking social norms including the norms against genocide always exists.

It's still trolling, whether directed at specific people or not. What you're doing is putting a bland, disinterested face on genocide, saying that one of the world's most despicable actions could be made more efficient and profitable. "Hitler was an 80-percenter," basically. That gets you a *** 1 day ban for trolling. ***
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