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(R) advocating violence in Oregon thread

Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:53 am

San Carlos Islands wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Id rather not. Would you kindly explain what you meant by using this as an act of accelerationism?

1. It was a joke because of the guy's flag.

2. Idk, storm the State Capitol and start the day of the rope by getting rid of the politicians there...

Sounds like clear advocation of violence towards elected officials

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Postby San Carlos Islands » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:23 pm

Clearly stated straight up that my tangent was a joke because of the connotations of the guy's flag. I then went on to answer your question about my joke based off what I've seen in other communities.

Never said I advocated for anything...
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:26 pm

San Carlos Islands wrote:Clearly stated straight up that my tangent was a joke because of the connotations of the guy's flag. I then went on to answer your question about my joke based off what I've seen in other communities.

Never said I advocated for anything...

Yeah, well, it's a text interface and people can't tell when you're joking. Not to mention, most jokes sound funnier in your head.
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Postby Aclion » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:31 am

and another one
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=466794&p=35853220#p35853220
Torrocca wrote:The militias need to get fucking dealt with too, to the fullest extent of the law possible or otherwise tbqh. What in the actual fuck is this Sturmabteilung bullshit?

Emphasis mine
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:40 am

Aclion wrote:and another one
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=466794&p=35853220#p35853220
Torrocca wrote:The militias need to get fucking dealt with too, to the fullest extent of the law possible or otherwise tbqh. What in the actual fuck is this Sturmabteilung bullshit?

Emphasis mine


Except I wasn't, which is clear by my follow-up post to that one where I point out there's a good chance they'd get shot if they try to use violence to prevent the law from arresting and prosecuting them (which isn't an unlikely event considering these are violent far-right militias that are currently openly threatening a state government):

Torrocca wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Dealing with them would not be as easy as you think. It could get very bloody. These people are dangerous and heavily armed


If these dumbass militias wanna play stupid fucking games and shoot at people in order to defend literal tyrants who're preventing a representative democracy from carrying out its democratic functions, then they're more than welcome to win the stupid fucking prizes that come along with that.
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Postby Aclion » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:46 am

Torrocca wrote:Except I wasn't, which is clear by my follow-up post to that one where I point out there's a good chance they'd get shot if they try to use violence to prevent the law from arresting and prosecuting them (which isn't an unlikely event considering these are violent far-right militias that are currently openly threatening a state government):

Torrocca wrote:
If these dumbass militias wanna play stupid fucking games and shoot at people in order to defend literal tyrants who're preventing a representative democracy from carrying out its democratic functions, then they're more than welcome to win the stupid fucking prizes that come along with that.

That makes it even more clear what you're advocating, as do your you later posts about them needing to be "dealt with" and "mopped up".

And FYI editing posts only covers your ass if you do it before it gets seen and reported. You're just making the mod's job harder now.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:48 am

Aclion wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Except I wasn't, which is clear by my follow-up post to that one where I point out there's a good chance they'd get shot if they try to use violence to prevent the law from arresting and prosecuting them (which isn't an unlikely event considering these are violent far-right militias that are currently openly threatening a state government):


That makes it even more clear what you're advocating, as do your you later posts about them needing to be "dealt with" and "mopped up".


Yes, dealt with according to the full extent of the law, if it's possible. Which is literally what the post you quoted says. I don't necessarily consider a situation where an attempt to arrest militia members ends in bloodshed because the militias opened fire to be a part of that umbrella term.
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Postby Aclion » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:49 am

Torrocca wrote:
Aclion wrote:That makes it even more clear what you're advocating, as do your you later posts about them needing to be "dealt with" and "mopped up".


Yes, dealt with according to the full extent of the law, if it's possible. Which is literally what the post you quoted says. I don't necessarily consider a situation where an attempt to arrest militia members ends in bloodshed because the militias opened fire to be a part of that umbrella term.

or otherwise tbqh.
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Postby Torrocca » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:50 am

Aclion wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Yes, dealt with according to the full extent of the law, if it's possible. Which is literally what the post you quoted says. I don't necessarily consider a situation where an attempt to arrest militia members ends in bloodshed because the militias opened fire to be a part of that umbrella term.

or otherwise tbqh.


Torrocca wrote:I don't necessarily consider a situation where an attempt to arrest militia members ends in bloodshed because the militias opened fire to be a part of that ("fullest extent of the law") umbrella term.
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Postby Jakker » Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:02 pm

Aclion wrote:and another one
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=466794&p=35853220#p35853220
Torrocca wrote:The militias need to get fucking dealt with too, to the fullest extent of the law possible or otherwise tbqh. What in the actual fuck is this Sturmabteilung bullshit?

Emphasis mine


Not seeing that as actionable. Additionally, the back and forth between Aclion and Torrocca in this thread was not necessary and was cutting it close to spamming moderation.
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