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Socialist Workers Combine
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:34 pm

Yusseria wrote:Not at all. Torra thinks assaulting the dude is morally justifiable. He hates freedom and bodily sovereignty.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463150&start=1875

I think we all know Torra is a transwoman. I don’t think she’s been uncivil to him, or suggested assault beyond the water gun, though I wasn’t paying much attention.

(I don’t have pronoun preferences myself)

He’s also referred to trans people as degenerate subhumans, but that’s farther back in the thread and I didn’t pay it much mind. I’ll see if I can dig it up.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:43 pm

I'd like to add this quote to the report, as an "all [x] are [y]":

Yusseria wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Mindless shitposting is the only appropriate response to you, however. :3

Because you're little more than an intellectual fraud.


Burden of proof lies on the accuser (in this case: you, with your crocodile tears masquerading as a gospel-like truth, to prove that I'm actually an authoritarian), not the accused. :^)

Let's see, which one of us thinks physical attacks are justified to shield a bunch of degenerate subhuman authoritarians: ah, yes. You do!


From context, the attacker whose situation is being discussed didn't attack in defense of anyone at the speech itself. I feel that Yusseria's pretty clearly advocating that all trans people are degenerate subhumans, because the only group that could've been "shielded" in this context is the trans community, from Knowles' transphobia.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:47 pm

Socialist Workers Combine wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Not at all. Torra thinks assaulting the dude is morally justifiable. He hates freedom and bodily sovereignty.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463150&start=1875

I think we all know Torra is a transwoman. I don’t think she’s been uncivil to him, or suggested assault beyond the water gun, though I wasn’t paying much attention.

(I don’t have pronoun preferences myself)

He’s also referred to trans people as degenerate subhumans, but that’s farther back in the thread and I didn’t pay it much mind. I’ll see if I can dig it up.

I was not intentionally attempting to offend Torra. The misgenderings were done by accident and had no malicious intent.

Quite frankly, I'm not using to having to be so careful about gender pronouns. I have not been here very long.

I apologize.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:49 pm

Torrocca wrote:I'd like to add this quote to the report, as an "all [x] are [y]":

Yusseria wrote:Because you're little more than an intellectual fraud.


Let's see, which one of us thinks physical attacks are justified to shield a bunch of degenerate subhuman authoritarians: ah, yes. You do!


From context, the attacker whose situation is being discussed didn't attack in defense of anyone at the speech itself. I feel that Yusseria's pretty clearly advocating that all trans people are degenerate subhumans, because the only group that could've been "shielded" in this context is the trans community, from Knowles' transphobia.

I have stated, numerous times, that I was referring to the perpetrator here and his associates (these sorts of people are usually part of groups).

That should be pretty obvious given that I called them "authoritarian". Not all trans people are authoritarian.
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:50 pm

We have cis women here who also request the female pronoun, but ok.
Here is the comment in question.
viewtopic.php?p=35603846#p35603846

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:51 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Torrocca wrote:I'd like to add this quote to the report, as an "all [x] are [y]":



From context, the attacker whose situation is being discussed didn't attack in defense of anyone at the speech itself. I feel that Yusseria's pretty clearly advocating that all trans people are degenerate subhumans, because the only group that could've been "shielded" in this context is the trans community, from Knowles' transphobia.

I have stated, numerous times, that I was referring to the perpetrator here and his associates (these sorts of people are usually part of groups).


Well after you were called out, in an attempt to backpedal, when videos clearly show the attacker was by themselves.

That should be pretty obvious given that I called them "authoritarian". Not all trans people are authoritarian.


We'll leave it up to moderation to decide.
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:56 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Yusseria wrote:I have stated, numerous times, that I was referring to the perpetrator here and his associates (these sorts of people are usually part of groups).


Well after you were called out, in an attempt to backpedal, when videos clearly show the attacker was by themselves.

That should be pretty obvious given that I called them "authoritarian". Not all trans people are authoritarian.


We'll leave it up to moderation to decide.

Your assumptions about me are irrelevant. I've stated repeatedly and maintained quite consistently that this wasn't an attempt at smearing all trans people.
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Postby Socialist Workers Combine » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:03 pm

Yusseria wrote:Let's see, which one of us thinks physical attacks are justified to shield a bunch of degenerate subhuman authoritarians: ah, yes. You do!

I suppose you could have just glossed all trans people as authoritarians (seems unlikely...), not sure about the other part.

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Postby Torrocca » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:08 pm

Yusseria wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Well after you were called out, in an attempt to backpedal, when videos clearly show the attacker was by themselves.



We'll leave it up to moderation to decide.

Your assumptions about me are irrelevant. I've stated repeatedly and maintained quite consistently that this wasn't an attempt at smearing all trans people.


You came up with an imaginary "associates" narrative after being called out. Like I said, we'll let the mods sort this.
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They call me Torra, but you can call me... anytime (☞⌐■_■)☞
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NOTICE 1: Anything depicted IC on this nation does NOT reflect my IRL views or values, and is not endorsed by me.
NOTICE 2: Most RP and every OOC post by me prior to 2023 are no longer endorsed nor tolerated by me. I've since put on my adult pants!
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Yusseria
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Postby Yusseria » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:50 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Yusseria wrote:Your assumptions about me are irrelevant. I've stated repeatedly and maintained quite consistently that this wasn't an attempt at smearing all trans people.


You came up with an imaginary "associates" narrative after being called out. Like I said, we'll let the mods sort this.

And I've explained my meanings behind it repeatedly. These people who try to shut down campus free speech are usually part of groups.
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Postby Jakker » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:51 pm

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Postby Jakker » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:44 pm

Addressed viewtopic.php?p=35605371#p35605371

Thanks for the report.

I'd recommend Torrocca and Yusseria putting each other on their foe's list.
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