[R] Mods as weapons in "Conservative Speaker Attacked"

[RiderSyl]

Dres made a report on another user reporting them for "Advocating illegal activities"
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=463153

After this, Dres tried to get Vassenor to admit to supporting criminal activity:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463150&p=35593514#p35593514

So you support crow-barring words into people's mouths to fit a narrative?

Stop pussy-footing and answer the goddamn question: DO you support criminal activity, yes or no?

Scomagia is also attempting the same.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=463150&start=175#p35593579

When did I become the topic of the thread, anyway?

Do you support this criminal activity or don't you?

[Dresderstan]

How are we using the mods, me and Sco are asking Vass a question, and instead all she is doing is deflect, shitpost and essentially post in bad faith?

[RiderSyl]

Opening a report for that thread for a broken rule, then trying to get another player to break that same rule in the same thread you reported.

[Dresderstan]

Opening a report for that thread for a broken rule, then trying to get another player to break that same rule in the same thread you reported.

Okay, and why are you continuing it when Fris said to drop it?

[RiderSyl]

Opening a report for that thread for a broken rule, then trying to get another player to break that same rule in the same thread you reported.

Okay, and why are you continuing it when Fris said to drop it?

Fris said to cease discussion of the topic in the NSG thread in moderation, not to cease reports to moderation.

[Dresderstan]

Okay, and why are you continuing it when Fris said to drop it?

Fris said to cease discussion of the topic in the NSG thread in moderation, not to cease reports to moderation.

Okay but asking a poster a serious question is not using mods as a weapon.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Same thread but different infracion, maybe?

Immature attacks on someone who was exercising free speech.

How childish. I don't necessarily agree with the speaker but attacking them was just wrong to do.

They(Dems) only want free speech for themselves.

All X are (or in this case want) Y?

[Torrocca]

Trolling:

Sure, you're allowed to refer to people by a gender that they're not. But that makes you an utter asshole too.

According to your warped definition

btw I identify as a dark lord, you will call me "master"

[Scomagia]

Nope, I wasn't using mods as weapons. I wanted an honest answer, considering Vassenor was dancing around the point and tacitly endorsing criminal activity. If it's a rule infraction to ask someone to plainly state the thing they've been implying, that's ridiculous.

This report is because the reporter doesn't like my opinion. Full stop.

Further more, I find it preposterous that the mods found the advocacy of illegal activity in that thread "not actionable". I can't say I'm surprised, however.

[USS Monitor]

Loaded question is loaded. We don't have a rule against asking loaded questions, but we don't have a rule against brushing them off either. So how about this: no "mods as weapons" warnings for the reported posts, and no "advocating illegal activity" warnings for anyone that argues glitterbombing is acceptable.

[Scomagia]

Loaded question is loaded. We don't have a rule against asking loaded questions, but we don't have a rule against brushing them off either. So how about this: no "mods as weapons" warnings for the reported posts, and no "advocating illegal activity" warnings for anyone that argues glitterbombing is acceptable.

That's a shit decision. "Glitterbombing" is illegal, son. Advocating it is advocating illegal activity. This is really simple.

Also, you obviously don't know what a loaded question is because neither of those questions were loaded. Asking, "So, you support violence?" would be loaded. Asking a yes or no question is not asking a loaded question.

[RiderSyl]

This report is because the reporter doesn't like my opinion. Full stop.

This report is because the reporter does not like seeing repeated attempts to lure another player into making a report-worthy statement, and felt it was against the rules. Your opinions do not matter to me.

Loaded question is loaded. We don't have a rule against asking loaded questions, but we don't have a rule against brushing them off either. So how about this: no "mods as weapons" warnings for the reported posts, and no "advocating illegal activity" warnings for anyone that argues glitterbombing is acceptable.

Thanks Monitor. *leaves cannon cleaner*

[USS Monitor]

Loaded question is loaded. We don't have a rule against asking loaded questions, but we don't have a rule against brushing them off either. So how about this: no "mods as weapons" warnings for the reported posts, and no "advocating illegal activity" warnings for anyone that argues glitterbombing is acceptable.

That's a shit decision. "Glitterbombing" is illegal, son. Advocating it is advocating illegal activity. This is really simple.

The illegal activity rule generally applies when someone is telling other players to commit a crime or giving them advice on how to do it. "Glitterbombing is OK" or "I don't have a problem with these people glitterbombing this person" does not mean "You should go glitterbomb somebody."

[Dresderstan]

viewtopic.php?p=35594684#p35594684

So then what about saying you'd smash someone's window just because they have a Trump sticker then?

[Scomagia]

That's a shit decision. "Glitterbombing" is illegal, son. Advocating it is advocating illegal activity. This is really simple.

The illegal activity rule generally applies when someone is telling other players to commit a crime or giving them advice on how to do it. "Glitterbombing is OK" or "I don't have a problem with these people glitterbombing this person" does not mean "You should go glitterbomb somebody."

That's a real cute interpretation. Just so everyone knows, there's this:
http://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.a ... =29283&hl=

So, yeah. What happened is illegal, supporting it is supporting illegal activity.

[USS Monitor]

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=35594684#p35594684

So then what about saying you'd smash someone's window just because they have a Trump sticker then?

That dude went too far: viewtopic.php?p=35594858#p35594858

[USS Monitor]

The illegal activity rule generally applies when someone is telling other players to commit a crime or giving them advice on how to do it. "Glitterbombing is OK" or "I don't have a problem with these people glitterbombing this person" does not mean "You should go glitterbomb somebody."

That's a real cute interpretation. Just so everyone knows, there's this:
http://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.a ... =29283&hl=

So, yeah. What happened is illegal, supporting it is supporting illegal activity.

We don't have a rule against defending illegal activity that already happened.

With a more serious crime like a murder, it might be trolling, but that's not applicable here.

[Scomagia]

That's a real cute interpretation. Just so everyone knows, there's this:
http://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.a ... =29283&hl=

So, yeah. What happened is illegal, supporting it is supporting illegal activity.

We don't have a rule against defending illegal activity that already happened.

With a more serious crime like a murder, it might be trolling, but that's not applicable here.

Naturally.

Anyway, we're done here.

[Gormwood]

oooooooh a tuff guy
reel tuff

Go suck Trumpy's small friend

[Lamoni]

Go suck Trumpy's small friend

Poster has already gotten a ban for that post.

[Torrocca]

From the same thread, hence me posting it here and not in a new report:

Nobody was seriously flaming you here though, Libernovus. Torroca is notorious for being a "sarcastic jerk" as she would have been called in Fallout 4 for her often sardonic humour, so you shouldn't take her witty potshots so personally. I thought you didn't need a safespace, dear friend.

Are you selectively literate? I didn't actually foe him. I already told you this in two separate posts.

This follows from two pages prior where LNA was corrected on this:

I didn't actually block her* sweetheart.

Fixed that for you.

And was then immediately dismissive of it:

Fixed that for you.

Whatever.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

In my defense, the conversation was heated with several posters trying to get under my skin. I got angry and didn't think to use the correct pronoun, and was too angry to care when I was called out. My intent was not malicious.

[USS Monitor]

You need to chill with the oversize font, though. Gonna go loom to make sure everyone gets that...

[LiberNovusAmericae]

You need to chill with the oversize font, though. Gonna go loom to make sure everyone gets that...

Noted, thanks.