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[R] Flamebaiting in SC [AT VOTE]

Postby ShrewLlamaLand » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:07 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Where is the telegram campaign spam? Did mum take away the credit cards or something?
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:47 am

Not actionable.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:35 pm

Can I have a second opinion please? I was under the impression that around these parts, obnoctiously belittling your political opponents was frowned upon; characterising them as children certainly seems to be of that ilk.
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Postby Cosmopolitan borovan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:38 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Can I have a second opinion please? I was under the impression that around these parts, obnoctiously belittling your political opponents was frowned upon; characterising them as children certainly seems to be of that ilk.

I think this is pretty normal for gameplay.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:10 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Can I have a second opinion please?

It's not actionable.

Cosmopolitan borovan wrote:I think this is pretty normal for gameplay.

I don't recall you being made a moderator, or anyone requesting non-mod replies in Moderation.

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Postby Jocospor » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:13 pm

Caracasus wrote:I'm thinking that IA is correct and someone's been grounded for nicking the emergency credit card.


Is it actionable if its repetitive, or do we just have to sit here and be OOC treated like ten year olds?
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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:28 pm

Jocospor wrote:
Caracasus wrote:I'm thinking that IA is correct and someone's been grounded for nicking the emergency credit card.


Is it actionable if its repetitive, or do we just have to sit here and be OOC treated like ten year olds?


It's not actionable.

Caracasus is not IA, and simply agreeing with another player isn't sufficient evidence to suggest coordinated dogpiling.
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Postby Jocospor » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:30 am

USS Monitor wrote:
Jocospor wrote:
Is it actionable if its repetitive, or do we just have to sit here and be OOC treated like ten year olds?


It's not actionable.

Caracasus is not IA, and simply agreeing with another player isn't sufficient evidence to suggest coordinated dogpiling.

Okay thanks.
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Postby Jocospor » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:48 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Also, after they got called out on it and still no campaign spam? I'm really agreeing with Caracasus. CCD's got cash flow problems.


Would it give IA some satisfaction if I just threw some money at my desktop?
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Postby Jocospor » Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:54 am

Caracasus wrote:I wouldn't worry too much about their finances... I have it on good authority that should the Viceroy clean their bedroom and mow the front garden they'll have enough pocket money to fund a counter campaign by tomorrow lunchtime.
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Postby Caracasus » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:03 am

Really? Okay, I don't exactly see my post there as crossing any lines. If it has, then apologies.
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Postby Jocospor » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:06 am

These insults are directed at the player, not the nation.
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:08 am

Um, I was going to create a new thread but I saw this here.

Nova Trieste wrote:One last question, if fascist roleplay bothers you so much, why not include in the forum guidelines "You can roleplay anything you want except fascists ideologist"? At least you could hunt down "le ebil internet nahtzees" in the site without sounding like a whiny hypocrite

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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:43 am

Kuriko wrote:When are these guys going to learn to stop mass recruiting from WA nations? Ill support this, due to their poaching from other regions. I got a recruitment telegram 3 minutes ago from these idiots, enough is enough.

Edit: Ill also note, for those paying attention to my posts and then reprimanding me for them, that I support this because this region is openly fascist. Fascists and Nazis have no place in a game where they can indoctrinate the youth of today's world into hate or bigotry, and cause another Holocaust in the future. Those who forget the past, or choose to deny and ignore it, are doomed to repeat history.

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:04 am

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Kuriko wrote:When are these guys going to learn to stop mass recruiting from WA nations? Ill support this, due to their poaching from other regions. I got a recruitment telegram 3 minutes ago from these idiots, enough is enough.

Edit: Ill also note, for those paying attention to my posts and then reprimanding me for them, that I support this because this region is openly fascist. Fascists and Nazis have no place in a game where they can indoctrinate the youth of today's world into hate or bigotry, and cause another Holocaust in the future. Those who forget the past, or choose to deny and ignore it, are doomed to repeat history.

Emphasis mine


That one gets a warning.

The rest is kinda unconstructive, but not really actionable.
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Postby Caracasus » Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:34 am

Given everything elseI'm now wondering if this is actionable. I wondered if it crossed the line when I saw it, but dismissed it at the time...

Still, I totally understand this is all contextual and it's up to you guys to make that decision. Sorry if I'm time wasting here. Bolded for emphasis:

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Caracasus wrote:
Continued ad homeniems aren't doing a great deal for your claim to an ascended plane of maturity. That aside, this question as to whether they are RPing or not has been answered in quite some detail by myself and others. Take a look back through the topic.

Now unless you are gonna let us all in on how you have determined that they are not fascists, that it is not a fascist region and that they are just RPing, I don't really see what there is to discuss...

All I've seen so far is asinine squabble about semantics and people whining about how a certain kind of roleplaying makes them upset, not a single objective proof (like screenshots of conversations, telegrams, forum topics and whatnot) on how the members of the CCD genuinely promotes and encourage fascist ideas. So yeah, there's not much to discuss with brainlets triggered by roleplaying they don't like.
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:20 am

USS Monitor wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Emphasis mine


That one gets a warning.

The rest is kinda unconstructive, but not really actionable.

Moniter, my I appeal this please? I made that post days ago, and it was never reported until I made a report myself about flaming. That coupled with the timing of the report seems to have overshadowed my own report, I feel the report against me is in direct retaliation for my own. I'm not saying I didn't do something wrong, it just seems odd a report was filed against me with a post from days ago just after I reported someone else.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Sep 22, 2018 9:56 am

Kuriko wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
That one gets a warning.

The rest is kinda unconstructive, but not really actionable.

Moniter, my I appeal this please? I made that post days ago, and it was never reported until I made a report myself about flaming. That coupled with the timing of the report seems to have overshadowed my own report, I feel the report against me is in direct retaliation for my own. I'm not saying I didn't do something wrong, it just seems odd a report was filed against me with a post from days ago just after I reported someone else.

If you can show us someone using Mods as weapons, we can consider that report. I don't see any reason to reverse your warning, however.
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Postby Kuriko » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:45 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Kuriko wrote:Moniter, my I appeal this please? I made that post days ago, and it was never reported until I made a report myself about flaming. That coupled with the timing of the report seems to have overshadowed my own report, I feel the report against me is in direct retaliation for my own. I'm not saying I didn't do something wrong, it just seems odd a report was filed against me with a post from days ago just after I reported someone else.

If you can show us someone using Mods as weapons, we can consider that report. I don't see any reason to reverse your warning, however.

Alright, can we at least get a ruling on the report I filed as well as the one Caracasus filed?
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:42 am

Kuriko wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:If you can show us someone using Mods as weapons, we can consider that report. I don't see any reason to reverse your warning, however.

Alright, can we at least get a ruling on the report I filed as well as the one Caracasus filed?


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Postby Kuriko » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:12 pm

Thank you Moniter

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Postby Caracasus » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:14 pm

Cheers Monitor. Like I said, was unsure if actionable. Guess it was.
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:04 am

Nova Trieste wrote:
Prydania wrote:They want me, and others like me, dead.

So no.

Yeah, you better watch out! Internet natzhee death squads are coming to get you! Oy vey goys this' like annudah shoah!


Given previous record and use of yiddish here I am guessing this isn't ok.
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Postby Sefy the Great » Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:48 am

Jocospor wrote:In the words of an issues moderator, please stop putting words in our mouths, its monotonous and flatly insulting. If it keeps up I'll take it up with moderation. Cheers in advance.

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