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[R] Slur in IDT

Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:51 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
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Those who are kaafiroon, yes.

'Khafir' being used in simple reference to various members of this forum rather than in a theological argument in the frame of the Quran.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:27 am

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Those who are kaafiroon, yes.

'Khafir' being used in simple reference to various members of this forum rather than in a theological argument in the frame of the Quran.

viewtopic.php?p=34490449#p34490449

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:37 am

It means disbeliever. Plain and simple.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:54 am

viewtopic.php?p=16394954#p16394954:
[violet] wrote:3) No rules lawyering. The intent of a post (while sometimes hard to judge), is a very important factor when determining whether or not it is actionable. The Moderation team does its best to interpret it. Agreeing or disagreeing with a moderation decision at whatever length you wish is perfectly within the rules, so long as it is done tactfully and civilly. Please see the Appeals Process (listed below) for further information.

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I don't see what I'm doing wrong with linking Arch's ruling.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:26 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:It means disbeliever. Plain and simple.

Oh lordie, are we doing this song and dance again? Arch's ruling is pretty clear on the subject. Your ongoing refusal to grasp this does not grant you some sort of pass.

Once again, you are clearly NOT using the term in the classical Koranic sense, but rather the colloquial Arabic sense, where the term is unambiguously a slur to the random public observer. You are using it in reference to other posters. You are calling other users a slur. That is flaming and/or trolling. That you persist in this nonsense after having been warned/banned repeatedly for it makes it increasingly clear that you are trying in bad faith to keep flaming/trolling people when you can just as easily use terms for "nonbeliever" that aren't loaded with inflammatory baggage the way "kafir" and associated variations are.

Taken in aggregate with your history, *** 7 day ban for continued flaming/trolling via use of 'kafir' ***. If you wish to appeal this ban, you know where to go.

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