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Nazi Turkish Empire
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Postby Nazi Turkish Empire » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:27 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Keshtallia wrote:roleplaying?

Indeed.
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Aight nigga.
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Emphasis mine. This deeply offensive and far-right rhetoric cannot stand. Even as the 'Nazi Turkish Empire' I know the boundaries. This is not even IC, it is clear OOC.
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Postby Nazi Mongol Empire » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:29 pm

As a black person, i also find this deeply offensive.

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Postby Nazi Philippine Empire » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:30 pm

I am also offended
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Postby Nazi Turkish Empire » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:31 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Nazi Turkish Empire wrote:Emphasis mine. This deeply offensive and far-right rhetoric cannot stand. Even as the 'Nazi Turkish Empire' I know the boundaries. This is not even IC, it is clear OOC.

Dude this is a friend of mine.
Plus nigga is used often between friends.

I request Moderation to dismiss this, as it is clearly aimed because of my report earlier.
With all due respect, I believe my thread is being spammed by this guy and his puppets and request for them and their posts to be deleted from the thread.

Stop using the n-word jesus christ. Also the mods can check IP's. We are not the same person but we are part of the same alliance. Stop spreading OOC propaganda trying to smear the Holy League of Fascist States.

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Postby The Confederation of Yugoslavia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:34 pm

I hope you don't mind me commenting here.

Racist words are not racist if they are not used in a racist context. This was not in a racist context, so it isn't racist.
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Postby Nazi Turkish Empire » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:38 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:This is clearly an ooc smear campaign started from ooc grievances meant to get me in trouble. Please deal with this accordingly.

Additionally, you guys and your alliance and puppets and other nations are banned from my thread for this offense.

This is not a smear campaign. You are the on the top page of NS so we selected you as a target. All you had to do was say no instead of spreading OOC lies.

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Postby LimpBizkit » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:44 pm

Excuse me if i'm not welcome, but I'd just like to chip something in. When has "nigga" been used in a racist way? I can only think of that time Michael Richards used it in between using the hard-r word about five times, and even that was probably a slip in pronunciation. Regardless, I think the "offender" hasn't done anything wrong.
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Postby The Confederation of Yugoslavia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:46 pm

LimpBizkit wrote:Excuse me if i'm not welcome, but I'd just like to chip something in. When has "nigga" been used in a racist way? I can only think of that time Michael Richards used it in between using the hard-r word about five times, and even that was probably a slip in pronunciation. Regardless, I think the "offender" hasn't done anything wrong.

I also think that way; nigga isn't racist, but hard-r is (if used in a racist context). The offender is innocent.
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Postby LimpBizkit » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:48 pm

The Confederation of Yugoslavia wrote:
LimpBizkit wrote:Excuse me if i'm not welcome, but I'd just like to chip something in. When has "nigga" been used in a racist way? I can only think of that time Michael Richards used it in between using the hard-r word about five times, and even that was probably a slip in pronunciation. Regardless, I think the "offender" hasn't done anything wrong.

I also think that way; nigga isn't racist, but hard-r is (if used in a racist context). The offender is innocent.

yeah, this is effectively putting one passing remark done by the "offender" in the same category of something much more severe such as actually wishing ill will upon any specific race.
The Creeping Barrage is the name given to a method of firing artillery. At the beginning of Trench Warfare the basic tactic was to fire lots of artillery at enemy trenches for a sustained period of time and to stop firing just before the infantry attacked. However this method wasn’t very successful as the German had built strong bunkers and were able to man the defences in the time between the bombardment ending and the infantry getting to the trenches. A solution to the problem of the time lag between the bombardment and the arrival of the infantry was to change the way that the artillery was fired. Instead of just aiming at the same target the creeping barrage moved forward at a prearranged pace.
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Postby Nazi Turkish Empire » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:48 pm

"Nigga (/ˈnɪɡə/) is a colloquial term used in African-American Vernacular English that began as an eye dialect form of the word nigger, an ethnic slur against black people. In some dialects of English, the word is pronounced the same as nigger in non-rhotic speech."

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"It is the ultimate insult- a word that has tormented generations of African Americans."

- Tolerance.org

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Postby Notovasian Tsardom » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:49 pm

Sorry to but in, but I just say ban the both of them and get it over with..
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Postby Likar » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:50 pm

Nazi Turkish Empire wrote:"Nigga (/ˈnɪɡə/) is a colloquial term used in African-American Vernacular English that began as an eye dialect form of the word nigger, an ethnic slur against black people. In some dialects of English, the word is pronounced the same as nigger in non-rhotic speech."

- Wiki

"It is the ultimate insult- a word that has tormented generations of African Americans."

- Tolerance.org

Please stop it. We don't want the definition, but to many its RACIST
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Postby The Rapture Republic » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:52 pm

I’m mixed race. I don’t care.
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Postby LimpBizkit » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:53 pm

Nazi Turkish Empire wrote:"Nigga (/ˈnɪɡə/) is a colloquial term used in African-American Vernacular English that began as an eye dialect form of the word nigger, an ethnic slur against black people. In some dialects of English, the word is pronounced the same as nigger in non-rhotic speech."

- Wiki

"It is the ultimate insult- a word that has tormented generations of African Americans."

- Tolerance.org

As far as I can tell, these are both non-trusted sources, but I'll play along.

All the wiki article says is that hard-r is an ethnic slur. It mentions that "nigga" is a colloquial term, meaning it's common in day-to-day communication.

I've never heard of tolerance.org, but i've found the article you've referenced and it seems very clear that it is in fact referring mostly to the hard-r n word as well.
The Creeping Barrage is the name given to a method of firing artillery. At the beginning of Trench Warfare the basic tactic was to fire lots of artillery at enemy trenches for a sustained period of time and to stop firing just before the infantry attacked. However this method wasn’t very successful as the German had built strong bunkers and were able to man the defences in the time between the bombardment ending and the infantry getting to the trenches. A solution to the problem of the time lag between the bombardment and the arrival of the infantry was to change the way that the artillery was fired. Instead of just aiming at the same target the creeping barrage moved forward at a prearranged pace.
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Postby The Confederation of Yugoslavia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:54 pm

Nazi Turkish Empire wrote:"Nigga (/ˈnɪɡə/) is a colloquial term used in African-American Vernacular English that began as an eye dialect form of the word nigger, an ethnic slur against black people. In some dialects of English, the word is pronounced the same as nigger in non-rhotic speech."

- Wiki

"It is the ultimate insult- a word that has tormented generations of African Americans."

- Tolerance.org

This would be a good point... if it was used in a racist context. It wasn't, so it's not racist. It's as simple as that. If it was used to deliberately offend, then yes, it would be racist and this would be a viable point. But he didn't call anyone this word to offend them; it's like casually calling your friends words that would be considered offensive to a certain group of people, but aren't used in an offensive context. If I call my friend a
faggot
in a lighthearted, joking context that we both know for a fact is a joke, it's not offensive.
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Postby Nazi Turkish Empire » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:56 pm

The Confederation of Yugoslavia wrote:
Nazi Turkish Empire wrote:"Nigga (/ˈnɪɡə/) is a colloquial term used in African-American Vernacular English that began as an eye dialect form of the word nigger, an ethnic slur against black people. In some dialects of English, the word is pronounced the same as nigger in non-rhotic speech."

- Wiki

"It is the ultimate insult- a word that has tormented generations of African Americans."

- Tolerance.org

This would be a good point... if it was used in a racist context. It wasn't, so it's not racist. It's as simple as that. If it was used to deliberately offend, then yes, it would be racist and this would be a viable point. But he didn't call anyone this word to offend them; it's like casually calling your friends words that would be considered offensive to a certain group of people, but aren't used in an offensive context. If I call my friend a
faggot
in a lighthearted, joking context that we both know for a fact is a joke, it's not offensive.

Yes but faggot is an insultive word for lots of LGBT people. It doesnt matter if you dont use it intentionally to insult people because at the end of the day the connotations behind stuff like the n-word are inherently coming from a history of vile racism and oppression. People will still find it highly offensive. It is only really excusable in a sort of IC RP sense, if it makes sense.
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Reviewing now. Locked because I don't need people spamming and bickering in a report thread while I look it over.
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Jul 16, 2018 8:18 pm

Confederation of Yugoslavia, LimpBizkit, Notovasian Tsardom, Likar, Rapture Republic: Your posts are just adding to the clutter in here so that there is more to read through. Unofficial warning for spamming Moderation.

Nazi Turkish Empire, Nazi Philippine Empire, Nazi Mongol Empire: This was clearly a coordinated effort to dogpile another player and try to get them in trouble. You are all *** Warned for mods as weapons ***

Eternal Lotharia, I think it's tacky using "nigga" that way, but that's probably just because I am older than you, and we didn't talk that way when I was growing up. It doesn't look like you were trying to be racist or insulting. It's not actionable.
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