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[Report] - Flaming of Russians in the Siberian Indep Thread

Postby Shofercia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:38 pm

New Wrepland wrote:Fuck Russia. China should decolonize Siberia from the yoke of the Slavified Finnish Golden Horde.


Emphasis mine. He's back to his old habits, failing to understand that he should attack the posts, not the posters, the government, not the people, and so on...

He's essentially calling the 30 million + ethnic Russians in Siberia, (in a classic all X are Y example) as a Slavified Finnish Golden Horde - which is a fairly insulting term to Russians. I should note that the rest of the thread is surprisingly mild, and that nothing provoked that statement, or came even remotely close to provoking it. (Not that I'm inviting anyone to spice up the thread, I'm not.)

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Improved werpland wrote:Don’t feed Shofercia.

Editing your post doesn't save you. You have been smacked repeatedly for harassing people with these types of baiting accusations. Given that you persist in this behavior despite multiple warnings/bans, we go to the next step.

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Improved werpland wrote:@Shofercia is this you? Why have you lied to us for years about living in California?

*** 7 day ban for harassment. ***

I was going to lecture you on the sorts of behavior that are and are not acceptable here but I don't think it would have the least effect on you.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:43 pm

Shofercia wrote:
New Wrepland wrote:Fuck Russia. China should decolonize Siberia from the yoke of the Slavified Finnish Golden Horde.


Emphasis mine. He's back to his old habits, failing to understand that he should attack the posts, not the posters, the government, not the people, and so on...

He's essentially calling the 30 million + ethnic Russians in Siberia, (in a classic all X are Y example) as a Slavified Finnish Golden Horde - which is a fairly insulting term to Russians. I should note that the rest of the thread is surprisingly mild, and that nothing provoked that statement, or came even remotely close to provoking it. (Not that I'm inviting anyone to spice up the thread, I'm not.)

His previous record:

Reploid Productions wrote:Editing your post doesn't save you. You have been smacked repeatedly for harassing people with these types of baiting accusations. Given that you persist in this behavior despite multiple warnings/bans, we go to the next step.

*** Improved Werpland, DEAT for flamebaiting/harassment. ***

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Farnhamia wrote:*** 7 day ban for harassment. ***

I was going to lecture you on the sorts of behavior that are and are not acceptable here but I don't think it would have the least effect on you.

Which poster did he attack? And Slavified Finnish Golden Horde is insulting to Russians? The Golden Horde peaked in the 14th century. I will, however, go yell at him because it shows a disturbing pattern of behavior.
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 4:54 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Emphasis mine. He's back to his old habits, failing to understand that he should attack the posts, not the posters, the government, not the people, and so on...

He's essentially calling the 30 million + ethnic Russians in Siberia, (in a classic all X are Y example) as a Slavified Finnish Golden Horde - which is a fairly insulting term to Russians. I should note that the rest of the thread is surprisingly mild, and that nothing provoked that statement, or came even remotely close to provoking it. (Not that I'm inviting anyone to spice up the thread, I'm not.)

His previous record:


Which poster did he attack? And Slavified Finnish Golden Horde is insulting to Russians? The Golden Horde peaked in the 14th century. I will, however, go yell at him because it shows a disturbing pattern of behavior.


Didn't attack a poster this time, but it is "all x are y", i.e. Slavified Finnish Golden Horde is what he was calling ethnic Russians living in Siberia, i.e. referring to the People, not the Government. If it was a reference to the Government, I would've simply ignored that as yet another uniformed Werpland post. That's why I highlighted the part about "China decolonizing Siberia", i.e. he was talking about the people living there, being forcibly removed by China. Otherwise - how can China decolonize it? Pretend that nonexistent Governments don't exist there, and it'll lead to Siberian Decolonization?

That said - thank you for the quick response!
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:01 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Which poster did he attack? And Slavified Finnish Golden Horde is insulting to Russians? The Golden Horde peaked in the 14th century. I will, however, go yell at him because it shows a disturbing pattern of behavior.


Didn't attack a poster this time, but it is "all x are y", i.e. Slavified Finnish Golden Horde is what he was calling ethnic Russians living in Siberia, i.e. referring to the People, not the Government. If it was a reference to the Government, I would've simply ignored that as yet another uniformed Werpland post. That's why I highlighted the part about "China decolonizing Siberia", i.e. he was talking about the people living there, being forcibly removed by China. Otherwise - how can China decolonize it? Pretend that nonexistent Governments don't exist there, and it'll lead to Siberian Decolonization?

That said - thank you for the quick response!

I'll get you a second opinion, and here's some advice for nothing: stop replying to him. Put him on your Foes list so you only see his posts when they're quoted (unless they've fixed that).
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Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:08 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
Didn't attack a poster this time, but it is "all x are y", i.e. Slavified Finnish Golden Horde is what he was calling ethnic Russians living in Siberia, i.e. referring to the People, not the Government. If it was a reference to the Government, I would've simply ignored that as yet another uniformed Werpland post. That's why I highlighted the part about "China decolonizing Siberia", i.e. he was talking about the people living there, being forcibly removed by China. Otherwise - how can China decolonize it? Pretend that nonexistent Governments don't exist there, and it'll lead to Siberian Decolonization?

That said - thank you for the quick response!

I'll get you a second opinion, and here's some advice for nothing: stop replying to him. Put him on your Foes list so you only see his posts when they're quoted (unless they've fixed that).


I don't mind debating him. I just want him to stop attacking the people, be they posters, ethnic Russians, or anyone else. He's ok with debating; he just has to learn to stop attacking others, i.e. understand the "attack the post, not the poster" concept.

That said, I don't disagree with your ruling.
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Postby Jakker » Mon Jul 16, 2018 5:27 pm

It seems like Farn has already handled this, so I'm inclined to go with that for now unless behavior continues.
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Postby Mackjaracotavon » Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:47 pm

On the same thread, and I know this isn't related to the issues on it with New Wrepland, it looks like there's quite a bit of thread derailment and personal arguments going on.

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