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Request Mod Intervention Please before it gets out of hand

Postby United Republic Empire » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:17 am

viewtopic.php?p=34154474#p34154474 - link to thread

Bloodwine is defaming another person and making false accusations calling the person a pedophile. This is uncalled for behavior and I am fairly sure the mods make a request for individuals not to talk about subjects like that on the forums, but I could be wrong tho.

Sorry, but I don't know how to link the actually comment unless I do it in a quote ?

Blood Wine wrote:
The Noble Thatcherites wrote:You do realize that region building is far more than just wordy gameplay posts, right? :blink: Blood Wine wasn't insulting anyone. He was simply pointing out the incredible amount of hypocrisy within the Enadian Union—that it was extremely disingenuous of EU officials to even pretend to care for the LGBTQ+ community given their horrendous record.


^basically, this
The funny part is that most regions are celebrating pride month in various ways without feeling the need to announce it everywhere

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Such as harboring a person known to have had explicit conversations with a minor onsite
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Postby Blood Wine » Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:50 am

viewtopic.php?p=23873865&sid=abe81ca4286281cc74850903b6a2fdca#p23873865
viewtopic.php?p=14803519#p14803519
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Request for an appeal, nothing I said was remotely close to defamation - I'm stating an objective fact that they have a known pedophile in their region
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Postby United Republic Empire » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:09 am

Look I understand you're​ not realizing this bloodwine, but by stating such accusations without any viable proof or credible​ evidence, what you're doing is defaming an entire region and whomever you are speaking ill of. As syberis of Osiris even confirmed that there is not enough to even proceed with.
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Postby Syberis » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:46 am

United Republic Empire wrote:Look I understand you're​ not realizing this bloodwine, but by stating such accusations without any viable proof or credible​ evidence, what you're doing is defaming an entire region and whomever you are speaking ill of. As syberis of Osiris even confirmed that there is not enough to even proceed with.


I confirmed no such thing. What I said is that Osiris is not a RL legal organization.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:25 pm

Blood Wine wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=23873865&sid=abe81ca4286281cc74850903b6a2fdca#p23873865
viewtopic.php?p=14803519#p14803519
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Request for an appeal, nothing I said was remotely close to defamation - I'm stating an objective fact that they have a known pedophile in their region

While still a minor, I engaged in sexual roleplay with another minor. Said minor had informed me at the time that he was over the age of 16, and having spoken to various others who knew him I was given no reason to doubt his word.

I am not, nor have I ever been a pedophile, and have provided proof at every time of asking that I was a minor at the time of the rp taking place. I am sick to death of people conflating an isolated action undertaken while still a minor, whilst being deceived, two years ago for a very serious criminal offence for their own political gain.
I am willing to provide the moderation team, if requested, with proof I was a minor at the time. Similarly I am willing to provide individuals close to the incident that they can contact who I am sure will assure them that no pressure took place on my part in order to engage in anything unpleasant. I am truly sorry for my actions in 2015, I am not a danger to other regional communities however I do not expect that Osiris will ever drop this opinion of me no matter what proof I provide to them. However, I would kindly ask that the moderation team prevent people from conflating this with a serious criminal offence.
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Postby Jakker » Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:01 pm

Blood Wine wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=23873865&sid=abe81ca4286281cc74850903b6a2fdca#p23873865
viewtopic.php?p=14803519#p14803519
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Request for an appeal, nothing I said was remotely close to defamation - I'm stating an objective fact that they have a known pedophile in their region


Blood Wine, after review, your appeal has been granted and the warning has been removed. I determined that your original comment was not harassment because it is verifiable.

With that said, your use of the term 'pedophile' in your appeal was excessive and uncalled for. Comments like that would very well be considered harassment/griefing, so bear that in mind moving forward.


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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:37 am

Jakker wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=23873865&sid=abe81ca4286281cc74850903b6a2fdca#p23873865
viewtopic.php?p=14803519#p14803519
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=gre ... icci_haven


Request for an appeal, nothing I said was remotely close to defamation - I'm stating an objective fact that they have a known pedophile in their region


Blood Wine, after review, your appeal has been granted and the warning has been removed. I determined that your original comment was not harassment because it is verifiable.

With that said, your use of the term 'pedophile' in your appeal was excessive and uncalled for. Comments like that would very well be considered harassment/griefing, so bear that in mind moving forward.



Whoops, sorry about that - could someone please edit the warning in the thread to reflect the overturned warning?
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Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
Sedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay Jesus
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Postby Jakker » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:09 am

Blood Wine wrote:
Jakker wrote:
Blood Wine, after review, your appeal has been granted and the warning has been removed. I determined that your original comment was not harassment because it is verifiable.

With that said, your use of the term 'pedophile' in your appeal was excessive and uncalled for. Comments like that would very well be considered harassment/griefing, so bear that in mind moving forward.



Whoops, sorry about that - could someone please edit the warning in the thread to reflect the overturned warning?


The overturn has already been noted in your records. I don't believe that we typically make a note about in the thread/edit the original post as well, but I can ask.
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Postby Blood Wine » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:15 am

Appreciate it, have a pleasant day
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Elke and Elba wrote:Well Mall, you want Haven? I'd want your Joint Systems Alliance badge, then.
Discoveria wrote:Port blood is a raider through and through. Honest.
Tim-Opolis wrote:The Salt Mines will be fueled for months by the tears of silly fascists.
Sedgistan wrote:Attempted threadjack on sandwiches and satanism removed.
[4:27 PM] Antigone: Port Blood = Gameplay Jesus
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