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[R] Continued Harassment

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:53 pm
by Vienna Eliot
This is my new account, preceded by New World Oceania. Kam and Sarian, after being warned many times, continue to spread lies that I've doxxed someone so that they can try and harass me out of a roleplay.

The Sarian wrote:[REDACTED BY MOD]

Kamchastkia wrote:[REDACTED BY MOD]


Given their history of discussing this topic, and their use of it to harass me, it's clear what both of them are suggesting.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:06 pm
by Kyrusia
I'm reviewing the situation. One moment, please.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:19 pm
by Kyrusia

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:50 pm
by Vienna Eliot
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:REDACTED BY MOD


I'm sorry to keep bothering you. Even after our RP admins have asked this particular group of players to stop (and now brand new players are joining them), they're continuing to make claims that I've done things that are illegal or against site rules. And changing the account I use obviously hasn't discouraged it.

Emphasis is mine.

Edit: again

Lamaredia wrote:REDACTED BY MOD

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:01 pm
by Soviet Canuckistan
In my defence, I have not previously acted to antagonize NWO/Vienna Eliot in any way so I don't really see how my actions constitute harassment considering this is an isolated post of mine, in my long history as a member of the Senate (around 5 years). Other players and I are just asking for the right to police our RP like any other and to restrict membership to the RP like any other RP is able to do. I'm trying to do this through the framework of the RP where resolutions pertaining the the RP such as nation formation are handled through a system of resolutions and seconds. This entire situation is obviously causing discord in our community and this is the way I, and some other players, believe that it should be handled.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:07 pm
by Wysten

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:07 pm
by Vienna Eliot
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:In my defence, I have not previously acted to antagonize NWO/Vienna Eliot in any way so I don't really see how my actions constitute harassment considering this is an isolated post of mine, in my long history as a member of the Senate (around 5 years). Other players and I are just asking for the right to police our RP like any other and to restrict membership to the RP like any other RP is able to do. I'm trying to do this through the framework of the RP where resolutions pertaining the the RP such as nation formation are handled through a system of resolutions and seconds. This entire situation is obviously causing discord in our community and this is the way I, and some other players, believe that it should be handled.

I am not reporting the resolution. I am reporting the claim that I doxxed someone.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:05 am
by Kyrusia
Content is being reviewed. One moment, please.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:27 am
by Kyrusia

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:33 am
by Kyrusia
Wysten wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=429986&p=33489532#p33489532
Another one for the post above.

I have no idea why this post is here, as it's unrelated, but someone already handled it.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:22 am
by The Sarian
Vienna Eliot wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:In my defence, I have not previously acted to antagonize NWO/Vienna Eliot in any way so I don't really see how my actions constitute harassment considering this is an isolated post of mine, in my long history as a member of the Senate (around 5 years). Other players and I are just asking for the right to police our RP like any other and to restrict membership to the RP like any other RP is able to do. I'm trying to do this through the framework of the RP where resolutions pertaining the the RP such as nation formation are handled through a system of resolutions and seconds. This entire situation is obviously causing discord in our community and this is the way I, and some other players, believe that it should be handled.

I am not reporting the resolution. I am reporting the claim that I doxxed someone.

Which you did.

If you were just remorseful and willing to be a constructive part of the RP 90% of people (including myself, Ainin, SovCan and countless others who you say are "harassing" you) would have moved on. You keep claiming this is some co-ordinated effort to chase you out the RP but many of the people you've reported, including myself, were vocal supporters of you rejoining based on the belief that you had accepted your actions were terrible and become a better person for it. Stop lying, stop using the mods as weapons to get away from your action and learn something from the whole situation. Then 90% of people wouldn't have a problem.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:12 am
by Farnhamia
The Sarian wrote:
Vienna Eliot wrote:I am not reporting the resolution. I am reporting the claim that I doxxed someone.

Which you did.

If you were just remorseful and willing to be a constructive part of the RP 90% of people (including myself, Ainin, SovCan and countless others who you say are "harassing" you) would have moved on. You keep claiming this is some co-ordinated effort to chase you out the RP but many of the people you've reported, including myself, were vocal supporters of you rejoining based on the belief that you had accepted your actions were terrible and become a better person for it. Stop lying, stop using the mods as weapons to get away from your action and learn something from the whole situation. Then 90% of people wouldn't have a problem.

Perhaps you didn't read Kyrusia's admonishment to the people involved in this latest incident. Here's a link: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=435910&p=33489857#p33489857. Read it when you get back from your *** 1 day ban for continued harassment. ***

Once again, people, if you suspect someone of doxxing, use a GHR to report it to us. Do not take it upon yourselves to deal with the situation.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:10 pm
by Vienna Eliot
The Sarian wrote:[REDACTED BY MOD]

I don't know if this is actionable, but I am posting it here in the event that it moves past the implication and into accusations again.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:33 pm
by Kyrusia

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:32 pm
by Vienna Eliot
I'm sorry again to keep bothering you guys with this. This is targeted at another player (at Merizoc), but it's the same issue as before.

House of Judah wrote:[REDACTED BY MOD]


The accusation is highlighted.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:44 pm
by House of Judah
I've edited the potentially offending post and hope this doesn't become a greater issue.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:13 pm
by Kyrusia
House of Judah wrote:I've edited the potentially offending post and hope this doesn't become a greater issue.

Next time, don't make accusations. Period. At the moment, you're not getting anything official or unofficial on your record, since it appears this was simply an error that you promptly corrected. Next time, it'll be something official. We've had to drop in on the NSG Senate threads to the point that there is absolutely no excuse to not be aware of the rule regarding harassment.

The NSG Senate threads, any thread on the forum, RMB, and TGs are not the places to field accusations. If you have evidence which makes you believe a player is a thread to NS or other players, file a GHR. If you don't like the way an OP is behaving in a thread, leave the thread.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:19 pm
by MERIZoC
Kyrusia wrote:
House of Judah wrote:I've edited the potentially offending post and hope this doesn't become a greater issue.

Next time, don't make accusations. Period. At the moment, you're not getting anything official or unofficial on your record, since it appears this was simply an error that you promptly corrected. Next time, it'll be something official. We've had to drop in on the NSG Senate threads to the point that there is absolutely no excuse to not be aware of the rule regarding harassment.

The NSG Senate threads, any thread on the forum, RMB, and TGs are not the places to field accusations. If you have evidence which makes you believe a player is a thread to NS or other players, file a GHR. If you don't like the way an OP is behaving in a thread, leave the thread.

The post still implies it, saying "an act for which I believe he should have been banned from the RP involving Freyhil", as do other posts in the thread. Even if he tiptoes around it, is heavy implication not actionable? I'm frankly in no mood to be slandered, whether it be explicitly or implicitly.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:24 pm
by Kyrusia
MERIZoC wrote:
Kyrusia wrote:Next time, don't make accusations. Period. At the moment, you're not getting anything official or unofficial on your record, since it appears this was simply an error that you promptly corrected. Next time, it'll be something official. We've had to drop in on the NSG Senate threads to the point that there is absolutely no excuse to not be aware of the rule regarding harassment.

The NSG Senate threads, any thread on the forum, RMB, and TGs are not the places to field accusations. If you have evidence which makes you believe a player is a thread to NS or other players, file a GHR. If you don't like the way an OP is behaving in a thread, leave the thread.

The post still implies it, saying "an act for which I believe he should have been banned from the RP involving Freyhil", as do other posts in the thread. Even if he tiptoes around it, is heavy implication not actionable? I'm frankly in no mood to be slandered, whether it be explicitly or implicitly.

Signal flare for second opinion ignited.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:54 pm
by NERVUN
It is in general enough terms that I do not find it running afoul of the rule.

I would restate what Kyru has said though and tell you all to drop it.