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Postby Aelex » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:04 pm

Blernovo wrote:I suppose this is feminism's fault too?


Poster has quite an history of trying to flame bait Ostro (viewtopic.php?p=31192974#p31192974 ; viewtopic.php?p=31190004#p31190004 ; viewtopic.php?p=31192974#p31192974) and it seems he's back at it again.
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Postby Blernovo » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:40 am

Aelex wrote:
Blernovo wrote:I suppose this is feminism's fault too?


Poster has quite an history of trying to flame bait Ostro (viewtopic.php?p=31192974#p31192974 ; viewtopic.php?p=31190004#p31190004 ; viewtopic.php?p=31192974#p31192974) and it seems he's back at it again.


Disagreeing with an antifeminist isn't against the rules.
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Postby Blernovo » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:42 am

Also, Aelex has a history of trying to flamebait me and is an established alt right troll. So his motivations are less than pure.
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Postby Hirota » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:35 am

Lets add this one to the pile too. I personally don't see it as actionable, but Aelex has reported posts where this poster snarling "Stormfront" as a form of insult and this one follows the same modus operandi.
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Postby Blernovo » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:13 am

Hirota wrote:Lets add this one to the pile too. I personally don't see it as actionable, but Aelex has reported posts where this poster snarling "Stormfront" as a form of insult and this one follows the same modus operandi.


Didn't realise Stormfront was a slur...
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:05 pm

Blernovo wrote:
Hirota wrote:Lets add this one to the pile too. I personally don't see it as actionable, but Aelex has reported posts where this poster snarling "Stormfront" as a form of insult and this one follows the same modus operandi.


Didn't realise Stormfront was a slur...


Even though it was in the post I gave you a two week ban for last time you had a run-in with Moderation....

I can't rule on this myself because I went on a long rant in that thread which was clearly not mod business. However, I will say this is NOT one of those reports that sits around unaddressed because nobody thinks it's worth getting off their ass to hand out a warning. It's sitting around unaddressed because it's being discussed backstage.
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Postby Blernovo » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:09 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Blernovo wrote:
Didn't realise Stormfront was a slur...


Even though it was in the post I gave you a two week ban for last time you had a run-in with Moderation....


God forbid anyone besmirch Stormfront's good name. :roll:


I can't rule on this myself because I went on a long rant in that thread which was clearly not mod business. However, I will say this is NOT one of those reports that sits around unaddressed because nobody thinks it's worth getting off their ass to hand out a warning. It's sitting around unaddressed because it's being discussed backstage.


What is there to discuss? I called out a shitposter, his friends get upset and try to get me banned.
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Postby Blernovo » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:18 pm

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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:31 pm

Blernovo wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Even though it was in the post I gave you a two week ban for last time you had a run-in with Moderation....


God forbid anyone besmirch Stormfront's good name. :roll:


Besmirching Stormfront's reputation is not the issue.

I can't rule on this myself because I went on a long rant in that thread which was clearly not mod business. However, I will say this is NOT one of those reports that sits around unaddressed because nobody thinks it's worth getting off their ass to hand out a warning. It's sitting around unaddressed because it's being discussed backstage.


What is there to discuss? I called out a shitposter, his friends get upset and try to get me banned.


To put it bluntly, we're voting on whether to make you DOS.
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Postby Blernovo » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:36 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Blernovo wrote:
God forbid anyone besmirch Stormfront's good name. :roll:


Besmirching Stormfront's reputation is not the issue.


Then what is? Which one of NSGs arcane rules have I violated?


What is there to discuss? I called out a shitposter, his friends get upset and try to get me banned.


To put it bluntly, we're voting on whether to make you DOS.


For calling out a shitposter?
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Postby Cogitation » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:39 pm

I'm only posting for educational purposes to explain what, precisely, about this behavior is bad, here on NationStates. As USS Monitor says, a proper ruling is pending a discussion by the NationStates Moderation Team.

Blernovo wrote:Heres an idea: why don't you, Ostro and all your Alt Right buddies go off to Stormfron where you can all jerk yourselves of about how oppressed you are and about how everything would be better if we just got rid of all the scary brown people. Maybe then we can have an adult conversation with out one of you lot derailing the thread into one of your pathetic shit posting sessions.
In the order in which they were colored:
1) Belittling and dismissive of other NationStates users, thus qualifying it as flamebait. Additionally, you are not a NationStates Moderator, so it is never your place under any circumstances to tell someone else to leave the site.
2) Flamebait, meaning that it's intended to provoke anger and shut down discussion. The purpose of the General board is to allow discussion and debate of opposing political views; uncivil discourse such as yours tends to discourage discussion and thus runs counter to the purpose of the General board.
3) Flamebait. Again, belittling and dismissive.
4) Flaming, meaning that it's more directly insulting of other players than flamebait. This also tends to shut down discussion.

Blernovo wrote:It's Ostro guys, take it with a grain of salt...

Attacking the player instead of the argument.

Blernovo wrote:Yeah, Stormfront most likely.

At a glance, this doesn't look actionable. (...unless I've failed to correctly track the context.)

Again, I won't be issuing a punishment or ruling against you on my own as your case is currently under consideration by the NationStates Moderation Team as a whole.

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Aelex wrote:Aren't you feeling lonely fighting with that strawman of your all the time? Why don't you join the actual discussion and talk with actual people for once in a while, it's been so long since you responded to an actual argument and not one you made up in your mind that I'm sure it'll refresh you.
C'mon, I'm sure you'll have some fun! ;^)

Flamebait. This is normally an Official Warning offense, but you (Aelex) have 6 forumbans on record already for rulebreaking behavior over the past year-and-a-half (not counting the forumban that was overturned in early February 2017).

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