by Gradea » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:21 pm
by Chester Pearson » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:21 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:With a lawnchair and a large bag of popcorn in hand, Ambassador SaDiablo walks in and sets himself up comfortably. Out of a dufflebag comes a large foam finger with the name "Chester Pearson" emblazoned on it, as well as a few six-packs.
by The Corparation » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:22 pm
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by Toronina » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:23 pm
by Empire of Narnia » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:24 pm
by Eastern Equestria » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:25 pm
by Sichuan Pepper » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:25 pm
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Yeah but no one here can read. Literacy is a tool used by fendas, like IRC or morals.
by Toronina » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:26 pm
Sichuan Pepper wrote:I think the Mods deserve a pay rise. I for one am willing to triple it right here and now.
by Empire of Narnia » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:27 pm
Sichuan Pepper wrote:I think the Mods deserve a pay rise. I for one am willing to triple it right here and now.
by Sichuan Pepper » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:29 pm
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Yeah but no one here can read. Literacy is a tool used by fendas, like IRC or morals.
by The Corparation » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:34 pm
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by The Corparation » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:49 pm
Trolls don't care about warnings. Trolls don't care about nation deletions. For the most part, trolls don't even care about being banned from a forum all together, they'll just go find another. It matters to everyone else. The population you end up with is indicative of how you handle trolls like this. And every time you let someone go "oh I love first class, otherwise I'd have to sit with smell poor people!" Every time you let someone post a "not equals" sign in protest of gay marriage rights cases as their flag, every time you let someone complain about "my family makes $500,000 a year, I don't want to pay for some crack whore to have a 12th kid" and you do NOTHING about it, you cause intelligent, mature adults to go "you know what? fuck this. I'm out". When you let profoundly misogynistic viewpoints fester and linger, you drive away women.
And this is not speculation. This is demographically PROVEN. Look:
In 2010 43% of NSG was 21+, 16% of the forum was 15 or under.
in 2014 29% of NSG was 21+, 24% of the forum was 15 or under.
What's especially damning about this is, think about what this means. If NSG had a stable population, average age would rise. That's what people DO right? They get older. In 4 years the average age of NSG has dropped about 4 years. But this doesn't mean that for everyone of age X who leaves, someone of age X-4 joins. The percentage of the population that stayed would logically age 4 years in the gap. In order for average age to drop 4 years in a 4 year span, and maintain a roughly stable population with a certain % exodus and a certain % joining fresh, for every person who leaves someone on average 6.5 years YOUNGER must join to counter act the logical impact time has on average age. In short, if population was stable, we'd expect an average age 4 years older 4 years later. If we were merely losing an average of 4 years for every time a poster leaves and another poster joins, average age would remain the same.
What we have seen is a DRAMATIC drop in average age of joining posters, and a DRAMATIC drop in average age of retained posters, this is the only way to account for an average age DECLINING across time. This is not simply a matter of older posters outnumbered by younger ones, the poll sample had similar sizes?
What about gender? Well gender doesn't change with time, so we should see a fairly static number.
In 2011 18% of NSG identified as female.
In 2014 10% of NSG identified as female.
There's really nothing I really need to say about that is there?
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by NERVUN » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:06 am
by Alyakia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:12 am
Toronina wrote:No. They mods do a great job, not everyone is going to agree with their decisions, but from what I can tell, it's no easy feat. Reploid, Nervun, Dread Lady etc. Deserve our thanks for doing their jobs. Without out them, NS would be a wasteland of spam. They don't get paid, they do this out of their own good will. Sometime they may make a mistake, but who has not made a mistake before.
by Shazbotdom » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:14 am
NERVUN wrote:I for one say... NO! We can go farther, faster, higher. We have the technology, we can make us BETTER! The $6 Million Dollar Mod! Mod your Mod today!
Why are you all LOOKING at me like that?
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by Aksun » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:18 am
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by Toronina » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:36 am
NERVUN wrote:I for one say... NO! We can go farther, faster, higher. We have the technology, we can make us BETTER! The $6 Million Dollar Mod! Mod your Mod today!
Why are you all LOOKING at me like that?
by Toronina » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:38 am
Alyakia wrote:Toronina wrote:No. They mods do a great job, not everyone is going to agree with their decisions, but from what I can tell, it's no easy feat. Reploid, Nervun, Dread Lady etc. Deserve our thanks for doing their jobs. Without out them, NS would be a wasteland of spam. They don't get paid, they do this out of their own good will. Sometime they may make a mistake, but who has not made a mistake before.
eh. there are good mods, ok mods and bad mods. i don't see why they need to get treated as a monolith.
by Alyakia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:00 am
by Big Jim P » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:01 am
The Corparation wrote:Gradea wrote:
I don't believe so.
I do. As someone who has been on this site for 5 years, I'd say that, overall, the mods have become much more lenient, or at the very least much more hesitant to act with regards to rule violations such as trolling. Posting a provocative opinion which a few years back would have been smacked down quickly as an obvious troll, now allows one free reign to spread their bullshit for extended periods of time as legitimate opinions we need to "argue down".
There's other issues I see with the current state of the forum, i.e. established and respected posters leaving of becoming less active,and a large demographics shift the average age on the forum decreasing significantly over the past several years. (compare 2010 to 2014 as well as sharp drop in the number of females on this site 18% in 2011 vs 10% only 2 years later Overall though I think that these issues to back to the shift in moderation's position regarding what does and doesn't constitute trolling.Trolls don't care about warnings. Trolls don't care about nation deletions. For the most part, trolls don't even care about being banned from a forum all together, they'll just go find another. It matters to everyone else. The population you end up with is indicative of how you handle trolls like this. And every time you let someone go "oh I love first class, otherwise I'd have to sit with smell poor people!" Every time you let someone post a "not equals" sign in protest of gay marriage rights cases as their flag, every time you let someone complain about "my family makes $500,000 a year, I don't want to pay for some crack whore to have a 12th kid" and you do NOTHING about it, you cause intelligent, mature adults to go "you know what? fuck this. I'm out". When you let profoundly misogynistic viewpoints fester and linger, you drive away women.
And this is not speculation. This is demographically PROVEN. Look:
In 2010 43% of NSG was 21+, 16% of the forum was 15 or under.
in 2014 29% of NSG was 21+, 24% of the forum was 15 or under.
What's especially damning about this is, think about what this means. If NSG had a stable population, average age would rise. That's what people DO right? They get older. In 4 years the average age of NSG has dropped about 4 years. But this doesn't mean that for everyone of age X who leaves, someone of age X-4 joins. The percentage of the population that stayed would logically age 4 years in the gap. In order for average age to drop 4 years in a 4 year span, and maintain a roughly stable population with a certain % exodus and a certain % joining fresh, for every person who leaves someone on average 6.5 years YOUNGER must join to counter act the logical impact time has on average age. In short, if population was stable, we'd expect an average age 4 years older 4 years later. If we were merely losing an average of 4 years for every time a poster leaves and another poster joins, average age would remain the same.
What we have seen is a DRAMATIC drop in average age of joining posters, and a DRAMATIC drop in average age of retained posters, this is the only way to account for an average age DECLINING across time. This is not simply a matter of older posters outnumbered by younger ones, the poll sample had similar sizes?
What about gender? Well gender doesn't change with time, so we should see a fairly static number.
In 2011 18% of NSG identified as female.
In 2014 10% of NSG identified as female.
There's really nothing I really need to say about that is there?
by Scomagia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:31 am
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