Then the ebil raiders will have to use the Security Council, another in-game mechanic, to get rid of the passwords oooooo
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by Premislyd » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:40 pm
Pimps Inc wrote:Swastikas are not allowed in nationstates unless your are RPing as Nazi Germany or sumthing
by The Orson Empire » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:40 pm
Registug wrote:South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Oh, for the love of God, just refound your bloody regions already and make use of the mechanism that already exists for this purpose. You're not special, you don't get to opt out of game mechanics, stop moaning and demanding the mods hold your hands and do something you're too lazy to do for yourselves.
And I will take all 3000 pages of RMB posts with me
by The North Polish Union » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:42 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.
Minskiev wrote:You are GP's dross.
Petrovsegratsk wrote:NPU, I know your clearly a Polish nationalist, but wtf is up with your obssession with resurrecting the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.
by South Pacific Belschaft » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:43 pm
Premislyd wrote:South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Oh, for the love of God, just refound your bloody regions already and make use of the mechanism that already exists for this purpose. You're not special, you don't get to opt out of game mechanics, stop moaning and demanding the mods hold your hands and do something you're too lazy to do for yourselves.
Then you'd be forcing them into a game they don't want to play.
THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF BELSCHAFT
GUARDIAN OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC
by Vanhania » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:44 pm
by The Republic of Lanos » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:44 pm
South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Premislyd wrote:
Then you'd be forcing them into a game they don't want to play.
Are you fucking serious? RP regions are now so special that they shouldn't have to have founders if they want to be secure?
Who the bloody hell do you people think you are? This site does not revolve around you.
by Vanhania » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:45 pm
The Republic of Lanos wrote:South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Are you fucking serious? RP regions are now so special that they shouldn't have to have founders if they want to be secure?
Who the bloody hell do you people think you are? This site does not revolve around you.
But does the site revolve around R/D?
by Aurora Confederacy » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:46 pm
by Esternial » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:46 pm
The North Polish Union wrote:I sincerely hope that the mod team will not implement exceptions for RP regions (or any regions, for that matter), as this could do serious damage to the R/D Game, which is just as much a legitimate part of NS as RPing is, and NS as a whole.
Its unfair to those who want to play a game if other players wish to opt out of part of it because they don't like it. In Civilization, for example, one can attempt to win either through conquest, cultural achievements, or space colonization. Even if one wishes to attempt to gain victory through one of the latter two means without any military conflict, some military conflict will be unavoidable due to the nature of the game, which would suffer immensely if even one of the paths to victory were removed.
The interplay of R/D and RP in NS is quite similar to what I described in Civ. In fact, since NS (unlike Civ) has no concrete set of goals for "victory," instead leaving it to the individual player to decide what constitutes "victory," no one's criterion for victory in NS are any more or less legitimate than any other person's (providing those criterion stay within site rules). This is the same as achieving the victory criteria for winning Civ via space ship constitutes just as legitimate a victory as winning Civ via reaching those for conquest. The fact that RP and R/D have different means to achieving their respective "victories" does not, and should not, delegitimize one way of playing the game over another any more than the fact that achieving the various types of victory in Civ requires different means to achieve each type of victory (admittedly, the means to each end in Civ are somewhat more similar to each other than the ones here are).
In short, I would say that restricting the scope of R/Ders to act towards their specific ends is not just damaging to part of the game, but to the entirety of the game (imagine how dull Civ would be for warhawkish players if their ability to make war in-game was seriously restricted). The same would apply to a proposal to seriously restrict the ability of RPers to achieve their specific ends. Furthermore, these sorts of proposals attempt to give one section of the NS population (in this case, RPers) a greater legitimacy as opposed to other sections of NS (in this case, R/Ders). This sort of caste-esque distinction between two types of player groups can only lead to further polarization and distrust between the communities and would eventually certainly damage NS as a whole. Therefore, as someone who has (and still does) participated in both RP and R/D, I would implore the Moderation team to consider upholding the status quo, so to speak, and not implementing any changes of this sort which would damage NS as a whole.
by Premislyd » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:47 pm
South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Premislyd wrote:
Then you'd be forcing them into a game they don't want to play.
Are you fucking serious? RP regions are now so special that they shouldn't have to have founders if they want to be secure?
Who the bloody hell do you people think you are? This site does not revolve around you.
The Republic of Lanos wrote:South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Are you fucking serious? RP regions are now so special that they shouldn't have to have founders if they want to be secure?
Who the bloody hell do you people think you are? This site does not revolve around you.
But does the site revolve around R/D?
Aurora Confederacy wrote:Premislyd wrote:
Then the ebil raiders will have to use the Security Council, another in-game mechanic, to get rid of the passwords oooooo
given your current flag, that to me says you're more into the gameplay, fair do to that, however what proposal have you got that is hereby constructive that you can bring to the table that helps move this discussion along in a civilised manner that helps bring a solution to the current problem we have of enavling RP regions and RD regions to coexist in harmony with eachother without RD regions wanting to trash RP regions??
Pimps Inc wrote:Swastikas are not allowed in nationstates unless your are RPing as Nazi Germany or sumthing
by South Pacific Belschaft » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:48 pm
The Republic of Lanos wrote:South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Are you fucking serious? RP regions are now so special that they shouldn't have to have founders if they want to be secure?
Who the bloody hell do you people think you are? This site does not revolve around you.
But does the site revolve around R/D?
THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF BELSCHAFT
GUARDIAN OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC
by Registug » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:48 pm
by Aurora Confederacy » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:49 pm
by The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:51 pm
The Blaatschapen wrote:Just to note, liberals are not sheep. Sheep are liberals ;)
by Esternial » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:51 pm
Premislyd wrote:Do you have any proof that proves that it doesn't revolve around me?
by Great Nepal » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:51 pm
The North Polish Union wrote:I sincerely hope that the mod team will not implement exceptions for RP regions (or any regions, for that matter), as this could do serious damage to the R/D Game,
The North Polish Union wrote:which is just as much a legitimate part of NS as RPing is, and NS as a whole.
The North Polish Union wrote:Its unfair to those who want to play a game if other players wish to opt out of part of it because they don't like it.
by Euroslavia » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:52 pm
by South Pacific Belschaft » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:53 pm
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:The Orson Empire wrote:Password-protect your regions. Simple.
It's like you're not even trying to pay attention. Haven doesn't want to participate in R/D. It has a password. Mall's proposal wants to remove Haven's password for no reason other than to let raiders in. This would be a precedent for making passwords useless to defend from raiders.
THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF BELSCHAFT
GUARDIAN OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC
by Aurora Confederacy » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:54 pm
by Premislyd » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:54 pm
Aurora Confederacy wrote:however, my question hereby remains, Premislyd, what can you put on the table that helps move the discussion along in a civilised manner?.
Pimps Inc wrote:Swastikas are not allowed in nationstates unless your are RPing as Nazi Germany or sumthing
by Euroslavia » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:54 pm
Aurora Confederacy wrote:euro can you put that gif in a spoiler please, its making me dizzy,
ps, have a good day
by Aurora Confederacy » Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:55 pm
by Aurora Confederacy » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:09 pm
The Floating Island of the Sleeping God wrote:The Orson Empire wrote:Password-protect your regions. Simple.
It's like you're not even trying to pay attention. Haven doesn't want to participate in R/D. It has a password. Mall's proposal wants to remove Haven's password for no reason other than to let raiders in. This would be a precedent for making passwords useless to defend from raiders.
by The Dark Star Republic » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:15 pm
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