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Quote editing and baiting?

Postby Gravlen » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:43 am

This seems to me to be a case of quote editing with the intent to flamebait:

Shofercia wrote:
Gravlen wrote:
I quote out of context when it suits my needs, and/or change people's quotes


Yes Gravlen, we can both do that. So can five year olds :roll:



What I actually said:
Gravlen wrote:
Shofercia wrote:and here's why I think Russia sucks".

While you're right that Russia does suck for their illegal invation in contravention of international law, that's not the point. My statement about how there were no justifications for Russia's actions was germane to my point about why it was unlikely that we'd see a UN investigation.


If you look back, you'll see I haven't changed his quotes, and reading my post it should be clear that the bit about "why I think Russia sucks" is the position he ascribes to me.
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

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Postby Gravlen » Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:48 am

Come to think about it, I'd like to mention this old report in connection with this new one, both because it may be indicative of a pattern, and because I never got a response to my request for a second opinion.
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:17 am

Shofercia is clearly guilty of quote editing.

But you clearly selectively quoted his post to ascribe to him a position he didn't hold here:

Gravlen wrote:
Shofercia wrote:and here's why I think Russia sucks".

While you're right that Russia does suck for their illegal invation in contravention of international law, that's not the point. My statement about how there were no justifications for Russia's actions was germane to my point about why it was unlikely that we'd see a UN investigation.


When you write "reading my post it should be clear that the bit about "why I think Russia sucks" is the position he ascribes to me", that isn't clear at all.

What it looks like is you deliberately and misleadingly quoting from Shofercia to make it look as if Shofercia is saying "here's why I think Russia sucks" because your very next statement is "you're right that Russia does suck".

If I warn him, I warn both of you.

What I actually suggest is that you both take a deep breath and stop baiting each other - which is what I'm going to write in the actual thread.

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Postby Gravlen » Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:37 am

The Archregimancy wrote:Shofercia is clearly guilty of quote editing.

But you clearly selectively quoted his post to ascribe to him a position he didn't hold here:

Gravlen wrote:
While you're right that Russia does suck for their illegal invation in contravention of international law, that's not the point. My statement about how there were no justifications for Russia's actions was germane to my point about why it was unlikely that we'd see a UN investigation.


When you write "reading my post it should be clear that the bit about "why I think Russia sucks" is the position he ascribes to me", that isn't clear at all.

What it looks like is you deliberately and misleadingly quoting from Shofercia to make it look as if Shofercia is saying "here's why I think Russia sucks" because your very next statement is "you're right that Russia does suck".

If I warn him, I warn both of you.

What I actually suggest is that you both take a deep breath and stop baiting each other - which is what I'm going to write in the actual thread.

*Sigh* Thank you, I see that you're right, and that I in retrospect wasn't as clear as I originally thought I was. I do disagree that the transgressions are equal in severity, but I respect your ruling and offer my apologies to the people involved.
Last edited by Gravlen on Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.


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