Region deletion: Zoophilia

[1000 Cats]

Sorry, but "safe haven" implies that normal site rules don't apply. "Haven" by itself might be acceptable. If you want a "safe haven", set it up on your offsite (assuming their terms and conditions permit it, of course).

[violet] didn't come right out and say it isn't legal, but "romantic" sounds problematic too.

adding an ambiguous note in the WFE ("romantic"?) that says, "This probably isn't about illegal activity, though."

I'll remove the word, "safe" then.

"Romantic" is simply having to do with love. Many Disney films are romantic.

[Forsher]

Sorry, but "safe haven" implies that normal site rules don't apply. "Haven" by itself might be acceptable. If you want a "safe haven", set it up on your offsite (assuming their terms and conditions permit it, of course).

[violet] didn't come right out and say it isn't legal, but "romantic" sounds problematic too.

I'll remove the word, "safe" then.

"Romantic" is simply having to do with love. Many Disney films are romantic.

Actually romantic has other meanings.

As a rule of thumb, would anything that one would not find in a Disney film be considered inappropriate?

[Communist Cyrodiil]

None of those other definitions are problematic however. Romantic simply means love or an idealized view of things.

[1000 Cats]

I'll remove the word, "safe" then.

"Romantic" is simply having to do with love. Many Disney films are romantic.

Actually romantic has other meanings.

As a rule of thumb, would anything that one would not find in a Disney film be considered inappropriate?

As far as expression goes, yes, I think that would be fair. I hope you don't mind if we swear more often than does Jasmine or Shere Khan, though.

[Forsher]

Actually romantic has other meanings.

As a rule of thumb, would anything that one would not find in a Disney film be considered inappropriate?

As far as expression goes, yes, I think that would be fair. I hope you don't mind if we swear more often than does Jasmine or Shere Khan, though.

I meant region and nation titles to be honest.

[1000 Cats]

As far as expression goes, yes, I think that would be fair. I hope you don't mind if we swear more often than does Jasmine or Shere Khan, though.

I meant region and nation titles to be honest.

I think that's already in place. The region has been given the go-ahead by mods to be called Zoo. Nation titles, well, the region is password-locked. I really can't foresee having any problems.

[Enfaru]

O.o well this caused more problems than a little. I wasn't aware NationStates was a democracy

I'm surprised that there was even a question to be honest. Phile, in Latin effective means love..(or was it greek?). The problem however is that other people misconstrue the meaning. Lots of people can be pedophiles aka in strictly none touching platonic way, but it's taken by the right wing or generally anyone who doesn't look at the etymology of the word to mean something rather nasty. The same is of Zoophilia.

Now. It's actually regarded that the offensive version is not a zoophile but instead Beastiality. (Or at least it is that way in the UK).

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

O.o well this caused more problems than a little. I wasn't aware NationStates was a democracy

I'm surprised that there was even a question to be honest. Phile, in Latin effective means love..(or was it greek?). The problem however is that other people misconstrue the meaning. Lots of people can be pedophiles aka in strictly none touching platonic way, but it's taken by the right wing or generally anyone who doesn't look at the etymology of the word to mean something rather nasty. The same is of Zoophilia.

Now. It's actually regarded that the offensive version is not a zoophile but instead Beastiality. (Or at least it is that way in the UK).

A democracy? It isn't. Nor is this the place to pontificate on what you think word meanings are or are not. I believe the matter seems to be settled for now. If there are further problems with this region or any others, we'll deal with them as they come. And if not, so much the better.

[NERVUN]

Explain to me, please, why there is a region called "gay"? In many countries, for many years, homosexuality was on par with pedophilia. Even today, many people would see the region of gay and put in the same bracket of offensiveness as a region called zoophilia.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... y_laws.svg)
*countries in red, brown, and yellow are places where homosexuality is illegal

So, my point is, where does this stop? If there cannot be a region called Zoophilia, can there be a region called Gay? Why is it we allow Nazi regions, but not regions like Zoophilia? I personally have no vested interest in this, but it seems strange none the less. I apologize if im out of bounds for posting here, but i feel it must be said, either you allow none or you allow all of the controversial regions.

Somewhat off-topic, but in the interests of explaining our policy:

There are many things that are illegal in some places but not others. Whether we are required to follow every law in every country also differs from place to place; some countries hold that if your web site is accessible from their country, you must follow all their laws. This is just impractical, however; we are not going to enforce all of Saudi Arabia's laws.

So to some degree we must pick and choose which laws to follow. You mention Nazis, so let's take the case of Holocaust Denial. (We could do the same thing with homosexuality.) This is illegal in some places but not others. So why not ban Holocaust Denial?

Well, first we consider the laws of the territories that are most significant to us: the US (where we have servers), Canada (where we have servers), the UK, and Australia. Together these comprise about 75% of our traffic. Holocaust Denial is not a crime in any of these. (Hate speech generally is, but that's not the same thing.) Countries that do possess laws banning Holocaust Denial comprise about 3% of our traffic, or 5% if you include Germany.

So on balance, we don't believe we should take a law that applies to 5% of our players and impose it on the other 95%.

That said, if you deny the Holocaust, you're an idiot. But that's just my personal opinion.

Back to the topic, we do not permit people to endorse or facilitate bestiality here, because that is prohibited in the vast majority of countries that our players access us from, including the most important ones.

Slight gravedig, but upon further reflection based on another instance, it was decided by the several Mods that [violet] did flame here and as the rules apply to Mods AND Admins, she is *** warned ***.