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Crossing the Line

Postby Parthenon » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:22 pm

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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Erastide » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:28 pm

I locked the post to prevent editing, but I need to run to class, so someone else will have to do the warning, sorry.

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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:39 pm

Everything she said was true - why should anyone be punished for telling the truth? Parthenon, what you said was disgusting and deserves punishment.
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:44 pm

Jordaxia clearly way, way crossed the line. I won't defend that post in any way.

But is calling transsexuals not just "tranny" and "it" but "monstrosit[ies]", "disgusting," and "trash" not also cross the line?
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Especially when the poster admits (as if there was any doubt) this running diatribe against transsexuals has nothing to do with the topic of the thread:
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Neo Art » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:53 pm

Frankly I think every word of it is justified. If a poster had attacked blacks, or jews, or women, with the same vitrol Parthenon did, would a mod have even allowed it to get that far?

How fast would he have been warned, if not outright banned for flamebaiting and trolling?

How in the world is it acceptable to refer to people in this fashion. Would we allow it, if instead of "fags and trannies" it was "those disgusting niggers"? "those monsterous kikes?"
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Hawkryl » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:01 pm

I fail to see how trannie/tranny is at all derogatory, no different then shortening homosexual to homo and heterosexual to hetero.
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Melkor Unchained » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:03 pm

Hawkryl wrote:I fail to see how trannie/tranny is at all derogatory, no different then shortening homosexual to homo and heterosexual to hetero.

This. I'm on my way out the door for work, but it looks like Rep has got it under control and I have (gasp!) pointed her to TCT's above links in case she feels further action is necessary.
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:07 pm

Hawkryl wrote:I fail to see how trannie/tranny is at all derogatory, no different then shortening homosexual to homo and heterosexual to hetero.


Care to explain how "it," "monstrosity," "disgusting," and "trash" are not at all derogatory?

Or was your "point" purely theoretical?
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:07 pm

Addressed.
Parthenon is allowed to express an opinion, even an extreme one. That in no way excuses Jordaxia's flaming tirade. Argue Parthenon's opinion if you don't agree with him. We aren't here to shelter everyone from mean opinions, we're here to smack down people who break the rules.
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Hydesland » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:09 pm

Neo Art wrote:Frankly I think every word of it is justified.


Even the 'fuck you' parts?

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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:10 pm

He did it in "an inflammatory manner".

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14554&p=525473#p525510 Can you answer me please?
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:10 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Addressed.
Parthenon is allowed to express an opinion, even an extreme one. That in no way excuses Jordaxia's flaming tirade. Argue Parthenon's opinion if you don't agree with him. We aren't here to shelter everyone from mean opinions, we're here to smack down people who break the rules.


Parthenon's extreme opinion isn't the issue. The language used to express it is.

Again, the action against Jordaxia was fully justified. The inaction against Parthenon is not.
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The Cat-Tribe wrote:With that, I am done with these shenanigans. Do as thou wilt.

Can't miss you until you're gone, Ambassador. Seriously, your delegation is like one of those stores that has a "Going Out Of Business" sale for twenty years. Stay or go, already.*snip*
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Hawkryl » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:11 pm

The Cat-Tribe wrote:
Hawkryl wrote:I fail to see how trannie/tranny is at all derogatory, no different then shortening homosexual to homo and heterosexual to hetero.


Care to explain how "it," "monstrosity," "disgusting," and "trash" are not at all derogatory?

Or was your "point" purely theoretical?


I quite specifically said trannie/tranny, never mentioned any others, but yes, they are derogatory ( except "it" in the case of hermophodites)
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:12 pm

I'm going to have to lock and sift through the entire damn thing, aren't I? :evil:
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Hawkryl » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:14 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:I'm going to have to lock and sift through the entire damn thing, aren't I? :evil:


IMO would be for the best.
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Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:16 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:I'm going to have to lock and sift through the entire damn thing, aren't I? :evil:


Yep.

I hope your annoyance is properly aimed at those that derailed the thread with off-topic inflammatory garbage about trannsexuals, however.
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The Cat-Tribe wrote:With that, I am done with these shenanigans. Do as thou wilt.

Can't miss you until you're gone, Ambassador. Seriously, your delegation is like one of those stores that has a "Going Out Of Business" sale for twenty years. Stay or go, already.*snip*
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Parthenon » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:18 pm

Trannie is a shortening of transgenders, The term used by members of the very community as illustrated by the numerous usages of LGBT in referencing homosexual issues.

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monstrosity
2 : the quality or state of being monstrous

monstrous:
5 : deviating greatly from the natural form or character : abnormal

It is not a societal norm for a male to have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup. As such, the term is applicable in referring to deviates.


disgust
1 : to provoke to loathing, repugnance, or aversion : be offensive to
2 : to cause (one) to lose an interest or intention

Both of which are applicable in my usage. Not only did the speaker being a trannie result in me losing interest in the video, it also provoked feelings of aversion.
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:24 pm

Parthenon wrote:Trannie is a shortening of transgenders, The term used by members of the very community as illustrated by the numerous usages of LGBT in referencing homosexual issues.

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monstrosity
2 : the quality or state of being monstrous

monstrous:
5 : deviating greatly from the natural form or character : abnormal

It is not a societal norm for a male to have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup. As such, the term is applicable in referring to deviates.

It is perfectly exceptable to " have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup" to open-minded people and people with a sense of human decency. Apparently you are neither.
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:26 pm

Could we stop the debate here too?
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby The Cat-Tribe » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:28 pm

Colonic Immigration wrote:
Parthenon wrote:Trannie is a shortening of transgenders, The term used by members of the very community as illustrated by the numerous usages of LGBT in referencing homosexual issues.

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monstrosity
2 : the quality or state of being monstrous

monstrous:
5 : deviating greatly from the natural form or character : abnormal

It is not a societal norm for a male to have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup. As such, the term is applicable in referring to deviates.

It is perfectly exceptable to " have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup" to open-minded people and people with a sense of human decency. Apparently you are neither.


Don't go there. Not only are you possibly flaming in Moderation, this isn't the place to challenge Parthenon's bigotry.

The only issue is if Parthenon violated any rules of the Forums and this is being examined by the Mods.

To me, it seems straight-forward. If "All JEWS ARE ____" is trolling, then "trannies are monstrosities/disgusting/trash" is trolling. Especially when made repeatedly and off-topic.
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The Cat-Tribe wrote:With that, I am done with these shenanigans. Do as thou wilt.

Can't miss you until you're gone, Ambassador. Seriously, your delegation is like one of those stores that has a "Going Out Of Business" sale for twenty years. Stay or go, already.*snip*
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Parthenon » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:28 pm

Colonic Immigration wrote:It is perfectly exceptable to " have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup" to open-minded people and people with a sense of human decency. Apparently you are neither.

You seem to be confusing morality with normality. You might find it morally acceptable for someone to behave and dress like that, however, it still deviates from societal norms. Normality is all one big game of statistics, your average person isn't seeing a tranny every time they go for a jog unless they are passing a gay bar on theme night.
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Discount Liquor World » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:29 pm

Throwing in my two cents, but maybe its lost on you guys. I'm pretty sure the dude did the whole lipstick+clip on earrings thing as a joke because people commented on his eariler videos about he looks like a girl. No idea how you could mistake that voice for a woman's anyways.

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Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:34 pm

The Cat-Tribe wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:
Parthenon wrote:Trannie is a shortening of transgenders, The term used by members of the very community as illustrated by the numerous usages of LGBT in referencing homosexual issues.

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monstrosity
2 : the quality or state of being monstrous

monstrous:
5 : deviating greatly from the natural form or character : abnormal

It is not a societal norm for a male to have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup. As such, the term is applicable in referring to deviates.

It is perfectly exceptable to " have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup" to open-minded people and people with a sense of human decency. Apparently you are neither.


Don't go there. Not only are you possibly flaming in Moderation, this isn't the place to challenge Parthenon's bigotry.

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I don't care. I'm sick of I'm getting away with the stuff he says. Of course I doubt he'll be punished - it is Parthenon after all.
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:37 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:It is perfectly exceptable to " have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup" to open-minded people and people with a sense of human decency. Apparently you are neither.

You seem to be confusing morality with normality. You might find it morally acceptable for someone to behave and dress like that, however, it still deviates from societal norms. Normality is all one big game of statistics, your average person isn't seeing a tranny every time they go for a jog unless they are passing a gay bar on theme night.

Transvestite= gay. :palm: Who cares if it isn't normal anyway? They still don't deserve to be called trash
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Re: Crossing the Line

Postby Parthenon » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:41 pm

Colonic Immigration wrote:
Parthenon wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:It is perfectly exceptable to " have hair that long, wear earrings, and be decked out in makeup" to open-minded people and people with a sense of human decency. Apparently you are neither.

You seem to be confusing morality with normality. You might find it morally acceptable for someone to behave and dress like that, however, it still deviates from societal norms. Normality is all one big game of statistics, your average person isn't seeing a tranny every time they go for a jog unless they are passing a gay bar on theme night.

Transvestite= gay. :palm: Who cares if it isn't normal anyway? They still don't deserve to be called trash

Actually, most trannies would classify themselves as straight as they consider themselves to be members of the opposite gender. Since when is the word trash inappropriate on these forums? Conservatives get called trash all the time without issue. Hell, I get called worse on the daily.
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