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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Ring of Isengard » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:23 am

How is that either trolling or flaming? That's stating my opinion of america.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:34 am

Ring of Isengard wrote:How is that either trolling or flaming? That's stating my opinion of america.


I haven't offered a definitive opinion on whether you did either; merely provided a link, and asked if your posts meet either category.

However, you've openly stated that you hate Americans and the United States.

If I were to state "I hate blacks, and have good reason to hate them" - which I don't - without much in the way of further explanation, it might be conceived as flaming and trolling. The same might be true if I were to single out Jews or Arabs. I'm not sure that the expression of similar sentiments directed towards our American cousins should be given a free pass just because they're big, powerful, and mostly white.

But I don't know. I'm not a mod, so I'm not sure where this sort of comment falls - which is why I've asked for an opinion.

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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Euroslavia » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:34 am

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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Ring of Isengard » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:36 am

I said " I hate most things to do with that country" or something like that.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Euroslavia » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:46 am

And: viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=20&t=12404&p=442840#p442840 because I seemed to have missed a post. (Thanks to Cogitation for pointing it out!)
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Allanea » Mon Aug 17, 2009 4:49 am

In a time thankfully long forgotten, a person known as Communist Mississippi has been banned for expressing similar views about men and women of African ancestry. While I do not believe RoI should be banned here, perhaps if he persists in this activity it should be considered.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Ring of Isengard » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:57 am

Allanea wrote:In a time thankfully long forgotten, a person known as Communist Mississippi has been banned for expressing similar views about men and women of African ancestry. While I do not believe RoI should be banned here, perhaps if he persists in this activity it should be considered.

Well, it's not like racism is it?
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Cogitation » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:02 am

Controversial statements about $GROUP should be presented as logical arguments without invective backed up by specific links to your information sources. $GROUP could be any group of people who share a common characteristic about whom a general statement is being made; this could be a race, but it could also be any nationality, political alignment, culture, economic class, gender, sexual orientation, belief system, fiction series fanbase, what-have-you.

Just because it's not about race doesn't mean it can't be trolling.

Oh, and Allanea? As complaints come in about a particular player, the NationStates Moderators will consider each complaint in turn, judge each incident on it's own, then compare it against past history. If we think that a ban is in order, then we will issue a ban. That said, persistent rulebreaking or borderline rulebreaking activities can indeed result in Moderation consequences.

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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Parthenon » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:18 am

In similar fashion, is the usage of the word "Twat" acceptable? RoI has called numerous people, including myself, one in that thread. Here in the states the meaning of the word is very much the same as calling someone a "Cunt" which is clearly inappropriate.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Ring of Isengard » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:30 am

Parthenon wrote:In similar fashion, is the usage of the word "Twat" acceptable? RoI has called numerous people, including myself, one in that thread. Here in the states the meaning of the word is very much the same as calling someone a "Cunt" which is clearly inappropriate.

Oh well that's just pathetic. Grow up, will you?
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Parthenon » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:32 am

Ring of Isengard wrote:
Parthenon wrote:In similar fashion, is the usage of the word "Twat" acceptable? RoI has called numerous people, including myself, one in that thread. Here in the states the meaning of the word is very much the same as calling someone a "Cunt" which is clearly inappropriate.

Oh well that's just pathetic. Grow up, will you?

This is the moderation forums champ. You might want to avoid petty, flame like, comments when you are on such thin ice in the middle of the summer.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Ring of Isengard » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:33 am

Well grow some skin. :palm:
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Rethan » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:40 am

I don't intend to take sides here. I like being neutral unless someone's clearly in the wrong, but in reference to this:
Parthenon wrote:In similar fashion, is the usage of the word "Twat" acceptable? RoI has called numerous people, including myself, one in that thread. Here in the states the meaning of the word is very much the same as calling someone a "Cunt" which is clearly inappropriate.


Depends on your country and culture. "Twat" is a pretty much an idiot, but not just somone who makes a mistake idiot. Someone who is consistently just being plain..well...a twat. Kind of hard to explain. It's nothing similar to "cunt" in Ireland like you seem to be suggesting he means.I don't know where either of you come from, just something to think about. EDIT: Just re-read it. Okay, so in the states it means the same thing. But I might end up calling you a "twat" (just as an example) and I sure as hell don't mean the "c" word. I'm just calling you an idiot. Get my drift?

As a side note, this has caused numerous problems with the word "tosser" which in Ireland means someone who messes about and is generally silly. In England it's something less...innocent.

Just food for thought before you start censoring words.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Parthenon » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:44 am

Its nothing in regards to "censoring words", merely a request that people act mature enough to avoid using terminology of the such in general ... especially on a forum with such a diverse population.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:53 am

Parthenon wrote:Its nothing in regards to "censoring words", merely a request that people act mature enough to avoid using terminology of the such in general ... especially on a forum with such a diverse population.

Well why don't you stop being such a twat? Grow up.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Behaved » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:55 am

Parthenon wrote:In similar fashion, is the usage of the word "Twat" acceptable? RoI has called numerous people, including myself, one in that thread. Here in the states the meaning of the word is very much the same as calling someone a "Cunt" which is clearly inappropriate.
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[quote= "Rethan"]Depends on your country and culture. "Twat" is a pretty much an idiot, but not just somone who makes a mistake idiot. Someone who is consistently just being plain..well...a twat.[/quote]
NNLDI called someone an idiot and got banned, so idiot is unacceptable, I guess. It's just bad, probably
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:59 am

Behaved wrote:NNLDI called someone an idiot and got banned, so idiot is unacceptable, I guess. It's just bad, probably

How is it?
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Behaved » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:03 am

Colonic Immigration wrote:
Behaved wrote:NNLDI called someone an idiot and got banned, so idiot is unacceptable, I guess. It's just bad, probably

How is it?

It's name-calling and it is flaming here on NS forums.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Kryozerkia » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:06 am

Behaved wrote:
Colonic Immigration wrote:
Behaved wrote:NNLDI called someone an idiot and got banned, so idiot is unacceptable, I guess. It's just bad, probably

How is it?

It's name-calling and it is flaming here on NS forums.

It was the result of him accumulating a great number of warnings on the Jolt forum and then here, in conjunction with being given one or two bans, while NS was on Jolt, for prior, unrelated offences. It just happened that the straw that broke the camel's back was just that.
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Colonic Immigration » Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:14 am

Kryozerkia wrote:
Behaved wrote:It's name-calling and it is flaming here on NS forums.

It was the result of him accumulating a great number of warnings on the Jolt forum and then here, in conjunction with being given one or two bans, while NS was on Jolt, for prior, unrelated offences. It just happened that the straw that broke the camel's back was just that.

You know he was trying to get banned, don't you?
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Re: A little singed and troll-like?

Postby Euroslavia » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:38 pm

Colonic Immigration wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:
Behaved wrote:It's name-calling and it is flaming here on NS forums.

It was the result of him accumulating a great number of warnings on the Jolt forum and then here, in conjunction with being given one or two bans, while NS was on Jolt, for prior, unrelated offences. It just happened that the straw that broke the camel's back was just that.

You know he was trying to get banned, don't you?


He made that blatantly clear at the point where he just didn't care anymore about his stay here. We know this.

In any case, this is all completely off-topic. I'm locking this.
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