What's the rule on usian threads or debates?

[The Black Forrest]

viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=20&t=10888&p=372664#p372664

[Gift-of-god]

As far as I can recall, after the 50+ page thread on Jolt, Katganistan banned them for a while, but we had one since then, and nothing since. The one we had since then was allowed to go on, if I recall correctly.

[Kryozerkia]

I would say for now, play it by ear. As long as it remains tasteful and within boundaries, I would not lock it.

[Brogavia]

I find "USian" an excellent way to distinguish between myself and citizens of other American countries like Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, ad nauseum. The fact that it also annoys conservatives is icing on the cake.

This seems to give some pretty strong evidence its merely used as trolling.

[Colonic Immigration]

I find "USian" an excellent way to distinguish between myself and citizens of other American countries like Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, ad nauseum. The fact that it also annoys conservatives is icing on the cake.

This seems to give some pretty strong evidence its merely used as trolling.

Hardly trolling.

[Brogavia]

I find "USian" an excellent way to distinguish between myself and citizens of other American countries like Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Brazil, ad nauseum. b]The fact that it also annoys conservatives[/b] is icing on the cake.

This seems to give some pretty strong evidence its merely used as trolling.

Hardly trolling.

Intented to piss off conseravatives isn't trolling?

[Sdaeriji]

Intented to piss off conseravatives isn't trolling?

It doesn't say "intended to piss off conservatives." The intent is to distinguish between people from the United States and people from other countries in North and South America. That it infuriates conservatives is just a side effect.

[Brogavia]

Intented to piss off conseravatives isn't trolling?

It doesn't say "intended to piss off conservatives." The intent is to distinguish between people from the United States and people from other countries in North and South America. That it infuriates conservatives is just a side effect.

The side effect seems to be an motive as well.

[Euroslavia]

Intented to piss off conseravatives isn't trolling?

It doesn't say "intended to piss off conservatives." The intent is to distinguish between people from the United States and people from other countries in North and South America. That it infuriates conservatives is just a side effect.

The side effect seems to be an motive as well.

The side-effect doesn't equal any sort of desire to want to piss anyone off, it just happens to be there. I don't see anything wrong with it.

[Grays Harbor]

It is not just conservatives it annoys. It sounds silly.

[Colonic Immigration]

This seems to give some pretty strong evidence its merely used as trolling.

Hardly trolling.

Intented to piss off conseravatives isn't trolling?

They're only conservatives.

S/he didn't say that that was their intention.

[Brogavia]

They're only conservatives.

S/he didn't say that that was their intention.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise that my personal beliefs some how make me an aceptable target for trolling.

[Kryozerkia]

I'm sorry, I didn't realise that my personal beliefs some how make me an aceptable target for trolling.

No one other than you said that. The fact that you don't like the term does not make it trolling in this particular context.

[Grays Harbor]

An admission from at least one person that the use of USian is intended to annoy.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=373332#p373332

[Colonic Immigration]

They're only conservatives.

S/he didn't say that that was their intention.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise that my personal beliefs some how make me an aceptable target for trolling.

Now you know.

[Brogavia]

I'm sorry, I didn't realise that my personal beliefs some how make me an aceptable target for trolling.

No one other than you said that. The fact that you don't like the term does not make it trolling in this particular context.

I was refering to the fact that CI said

They're only conservatives.

Which seems to suggest that ones political beliefs make them ok targets to troll.

[Colonic Immigration]

I'm sorry, I didn't realise that my personal beliefs some how make me an aceptable target for trolling.

No one other than you said that. The fact that you don't like the term does not make it trolling in this particular context.

I was refering to the fact that CI said

They're only conservatives.

Which seems to suggest that ones political beliefs make them ok targets to troll.

I was joking.

[Sdaeriji]

Please, let "it annoys me" be the new standard for a trolling warning. These fora will be cleared out within a day.

[Kryozerkia]

I'm sorry, I didn't realise that my personal beliefs some how make me an aceptable target for trolling.

No one other than you said that. The fact that you don't like the term does not make it trolling in this particular context.

I was refering to the fact that CI said

They're only conservatives.

Which seems to suggest that ones political beliefs make them ok targets to troll.

The term itself is not trolling. You're making it worse than it is, and while people like CI should not be making remarks like that since in Moderation it would get them into trouble AHEM, there is nothing to say you can't politely debate the term and its use. Getting offended over the word itself will create the link between the use of the word and the fact that it potentially annoys those who happen to call themselves conservative. The relation was born through this. It may annoy those who call themselves conservatives, but it also refers to liberals who are from the US. For this, I would leave it be and encourage you to go debate it nicely, and if you don't want to, avoid the thread entirely. Unless there is actual rule breaking.

[Brogavia]

The term itself is not trolling. You're making it worse than it is, and while people like CI should not be making remarks like that since in Moderation it would get them into trouble AHEM, there is nothing to say you can't politely debate the term and its use. Getting offended over the word itself will create the link between the use of the word and the fact that it potentially annoys those who happen to call themselves conservative. The relation was born through this. It may annoy those who call themselves conservatives, but it also refers to liberals who are from the US. For this, I would leave it be and encourage you to go debate it nicely, and if you don't want to, avoid the thread entirely. Unless there is actual rule breaking.

Its sole use is to agitate people who take offence to it.

Trolling: posts that are made with the aim of angering people. (like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). While Trolls often make these posts strictly in an attempt to provoke negative comment, it is still trolling even if you actually hold those beliefs. Intent is difficult to prove over the internet, so mods will work under their best assumptions.

Your own rules.

[Euroslavia]

Its sole use is to agitate people who take offence to it.

Your own rules.

Brogavia. We know the rules, you don't have to quote them. The sole intent is not to troll, if you would bother to read the exact quote in question. Grow a thicker skin. Not everything that annoys you is breaking the rules. Case closed.