Overcoming banjection in a Liberated Region (Republicans)

[TheThanksgiving Turkey]

I am finding myself at a loss that first The Black Hawks then a supposedly independent region The Phantom Knights could banject natives like myself from Republicans -- A region with a liberation resolution that lists my nation as one of the natives griefed by another set of raiders The Greater German Reich

Its current delegate of this writing -- Hurly Burly Land posted the following on the Republicans RMB:

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5 hours ago The Banhammer Republic of Hurly Burly Land

People are free to speak their minds concerning treatment of certain nations. Not that talk will help much, though.
@Okra Gumbo: if people really want to come here and repeat your message, it's nothing much I can do but sending them packing to Kandyland.

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When I returned with other nations to first protest to the original raiders The Black Hawks -- I was told they were no longer leading the raid. I was encouraged by both raiders to lodge complaints to The Phantom Knights -- only to now be threatened (by Hurly Burly Land -- not a moderator that I know of) with puppet flooding.

Appraising myself of the rules, I have stopped the action after creating two puppets and they were each ejected. I had misunderstood that by self-identifying with my originally-banned native nation from the region. I realize that this whole thing has gone too far -- so I am refraining from posting on their regional message boards. However the original action of The Black Hawks and The Phantom Knights to subvert a Security Council liberation resolution remains an issue -- as their apparent attempt at refounding the region in order to remove the liberation designation.

NS Moderation can verify my record of gameplay since 2003. Now however in fighting back against my griefing in Republicans I am becoming like them. The actions of The Black Hawks in particular to subvert the spirit of Security Council liberation resolutions as well as the condemnation/commendation resolutions has left me however unsettled that the stated rules are being warped to encourage a behavior (griefing) which to my view NS has strived to discourage.

I await your (and anyone's) responses.

TheThanksgiving Turkey

[Mahaj WA Seat]

Since I do some GamePlaying...i'm going to respond to this.

I don't honestly understand what you're asking here. If you believe that TBH are subverting a SC resolution...they're not. Other regions that have been liberated by the SC have been refounded. So its not like it can't happen.

If you're upset about being threatened with puppet flooding...if it was only two puppets, that doesn't strike me as flooding, but i'm not really going to comment on that.

If you feel that you are being griefed...what you wrote says otherwise. You can be ejected/banjected no matter WHO you are if the delegate/founder has enough influence to do this (AN ASIDE NOTE: I plan on writing a SC resolution on something about this. Be on the lookout. ). So even if you are a native...under the current rules, its simply too bad. For you. But its all legal.

Mahaj

[TheThanksgiving Turkey]

Since I do some GamePlaying...i'm going to respond to this.

I don't honestly understand what you're asking here. If you believe that TBH are subverting a SC resolution...they're not. Other regions that have been liberated by the SC have been refounded. So its not like it can't happen.

If you're upset about being threatened with puppet flooding...if it was only two puppets, that doesn't strike me as flooding, but i'm not really going to comment on that.

If you feel that you are being griefed...what you wrote says otherwise. You can be ejected/banjected no matter WHO you are if the delegate/founder has enough influence to do this (AN ASIDE NOTE: I plan on writing a SC resolution on something about this. Be on the lookout. ). So even if you are a native...under the current rules, its simply too bad. For you. But its all legal.

Mahaj

Your response (and I hope others) are the reason why I posted this thread. I wasn't really sure what to do, except that my response today on NS belied years of gameplay -- as I felt I was becoming like those I am critical of.

[Mahaj WA Seat]

Since I do some GamePlaying...i'm going to respond to this.

I don't honestly understand what you're asking here. If you believe that TBH are subverting a SC resolution...they're not. Other regions that have been liberated by the SC have been refounded. So its not like it can't happen.

If you're upset about being threatened with puppet flooding...if it was only two puppets, that doesn't strike me as flooding, but i'm not really going to comment on that.

If you feel that you are being griefed...what you wrote says otherwise. You can be ejected/banjected no matter WHO you are if the delegate/founder has enough influence to do this (AN ASIDE NOTE: I plan on writing a SC resolution on something about this. Be on the lookout. ). So even if you are a native...under the current rules, its simply too bad. For you. But its all legal.

Mahaj

Your response (and I hope others) are the reason why I posted this thread. I wasn't really sure what to do, except that my response today on NS belied years of gameplay -- as I felt I was becoming like those I am critical of.

Unfortunately...I do not think that you really can do much.

[Sedgistan]

Liberation resolutions prevent delegate-imposed passwords from working - they don't prevent delegates from ejecting & banning nations. If you're asking about the old region-griefing rules, they were abolished with the introduction of influence in 2006.

[Unibot II]

[..] If you're asking about the old region-griefing rules, they were abolished with the introduction of influence in 2006.

Because I think that's what the OP is referring to ---> Here's some possibly helpful reading material.

[TheThanksgiving Turkey]

Liberation resolutions prevent delegate-imposed passwords from working - they don't prevent delegates from ejecting & banning nations. If you're asking about the old region-griefing rules, they were abolished with the introduction of influence in 2006.

Thanks for this clarification. Am I then to understand correctly that if a Liberation resolution-designated region is refounded, that it will still be unable to put a password in place?

[Sedgistan]

No, because the region will have a founder - who can impose a password. Liberations have no effect on the ability of a founder to password their region.