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Quadrimmina
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[GAME MECHANICS] WA Reform?

Postby Quadrimmina » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:15 pm

I've been observing the mechanics of the WA for quite some time (the 5-6 months I've been here) and have come to the conclusion that many aspects of gameplay are rather unsavory to many delegations due to the emphasis on delegate votes. It would appear that most delegations are rather loose with endorsements, and member nations' votes are drowned out both in the GA and the SC by the votes of regional delegates. Therefore, I offer the following proposed changes:

1) Change the voting system for resolutions at vote to a system by which each nation gets one vote, and each regional delegate casts one vote plus a vote for each WA member nation in their region that has not voted. In this way, each nation gets one vote, and the regional delegate can still have some influence (having the power to act with power of attorney for absent nations, unless the nation specifically abstains).

2) Increase the number of endorsements needed to pass a resolution to 7% of the region's WA nations, or 3, whichever is higher.

3) Change the system of approving proposals to one that discounts the presence of regional delegates that have been inactive for 30 days or more. In effect, you must get 6% of the regional delegates that have been active for 30 days or more to get a proposal to achieve quorum, instead of the standard "6% of all regional delegates".

4) Allow telegrams to be sent to more than one delegation at a time, or remove the spam limit. It makes it hard to advertise otherwise.

5) Add a 'preview' function for proposals so that mistakes are caught before submission. This would also ease the # of requests to mods to remove proposals.

Of course, I know that this would require some coding. I just wanted to give my two cents on the matter, and wonder how my fellow nations feel about these measures. I've discussed these in passing in other parts, but never really got a good feel of how everyone was thinking.
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Postby Unibot » Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:29 pm

Quadrimmina wrote:1) Change the voting system for resolutions at vote to a system by which each nation gets one vote, and each regional delegate casts one vote plus a vote for each WA member nation in their region that has not voted. In this way, each nation gets one vote, and the regional delegate can still have some influence (having the power to act with power of attorney for absent nations, unless the nation specifically abstains).


That wouldn't prevent stacking because in the critical first hour or two, for example, a solid majority of Ananke's endorsers won't have voted yet which means this wouldn't have an effect.

3) Change the system of approving proposals to one that discounts the presence of regional delegates that have been inactive for 30 days or more. In effect, you must get 6% of the regional delegates that have been active for 30 days or more to get a proposal to achieve quorum, instead of the standard "6% of all regional delegates".


This would inflate quorum, it would be even easier to get a resolution to quorum. Not good.

5) Add a 'preview' function for proposals so that mistakes are caught before submission. This would also ease the # of requests to mods to remove proposals.


Agreed.
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Quadrimmina
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Postby Quadrimmina » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:36 pm

Canadai wrote:Game mechanics go in technical.

OOC: Many posts pertinent to the WA are posted here even if they are not "proposals" per-se. However, if the mods disagree with that statement, they are welcome to move it with my apologies.
Unibot wrote:
Quadrimmina wrote:1) Change the voting system for resolutions at vote to a system by which each nation gets one vote, and each regional delegate casts one vote plus a vote for each WA member nation in their region that has not voted. In this way, each nation gets one vote, and the regional delegate can still have some influence (having the power to act with power of attorney for absent nations, unless the nation specifically abstains).


That wouldn't prevent stacking because in the critical first hour or two, for example, a solid majority of Ananke's endorsers won't have voted yet which means this wouldn't have an effect.

3) Change the system of approving proposals to one that discounts the presence of regional delegates that have been inactive for 30 days or more. In effect, you must get 6% of the regional delegates that have been active for 30 days or more to get a proposal to achieve quorum, instead of the standard "6% of all regional delegates".


This would inflate quorum, it would be even easier to get a resolution to quorum. Not good.

5) Add a 'preview' function for proposals so that mistakes are caught before submission. This would also ease the # of requests to mods to remove proposals.


Agreed.


1) I imagined that as Ananke's endorsers voted, the number of votes Ananke had cast would go down. This would indeed prevent stacking.

3) Perhaps. I just imagined numerous scenarios where not even 6% of the delegates get on in that time period. Maybe an inflation of the time interval?

5) This is our most heavily pushed of our measures.
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Sincerely,
Alexandra Kerrigan, Ambassador to the World Assembly from the Republic of Quadrimmina.
National Profile | Ambassadorial Profile | Quadrimmina Gazette-Post | Protect, Free, Restore: UDL

Authored:
GA#111 (Medical Research Ethics Act)
SC#28 (Commend Sionis Prioratus)
GA#197 (Banning Extrajudicial Transfer)

Co-authored:
GA#110 (Identity Theft Prevention Act)
GA#171 (Freedom in Medical Research)
GA#196 (Freedom of Information Act)

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:37 pm

All of these things have been suggested numerous times before. :\

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Postby Quadrimmina » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:59 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:All of these things have been suggested numerous times before. :\

Well, what are your thoughts on them?
Sincerely,
Alexandra Kerrigan, Ambassador to the World Assembly from the Republic of Quadrimmina.
National Profile | Ambassadorial Profile | Quadrimmina Gazette-Post | Protect, Free, Restore: UDL

Authored:
GA#111 (Medical Research Ethics Act)
SC#28 (Commend Sionis Prioratus)
GA#197 (Banning Extrajudicial Transfer)

Co-authored:
GA#110 (Identity Theft Prevention Act)
GA#171 (Freedom in Medical Research)
GA#196 (Freedom of Information Act)

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Quadrimmina
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Postby Quadrimmina » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:59 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:All of these things have been suggested numerous times before. :\

Well, what are your thoughts on them?
Sincerely,
Alexandra Kerrigan, Ambassador to the World Assembly from the Republic of Quadrimmina.
National Profile | Ambassadorial Profile | Quadrimmina Gazette-Post | Protect, Free, Restore: UDL

Authored:
GA#111 (Medical Research Ethics Act)
SC#28 (Commend Sionis Prioratus)
GA#197 (Banning Extrajudicial Transfer)

Co-authored:
GA#110 (Identity Theft Prevention Act)
GA#171 (Freedom in Medical Research)
GA#196 (Freedom of Information Act)

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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:20 pm

Quadrimmina wrote:1) Change the voting system for resolutions at vote to a system by which each nation gets one vote, and each regional delegate casts one vote plus a vote for each WA member nation in their region that has not voted. In this way, each nation gets one vote, and the regional delegate can still have some influence (having the power to act with power of attorney for absent nations, unless the nation specifically abstains).

I would rather each nation have one vote.

Quadrimmina wrote:2) Increase the number of endorsements needed to pass a resolution to 7% of the region's WA nations, or 3, whichever is higher.

I assume by 'pass,' you mean 'submit.' I don't really see a reason to change this, and it could very well lead to even myself being unable to submit proposal. It would also hurt WA members from large regions. They would need a lot more than 2 or 3 endorsements just to submit a proposal.

Quadrimmina wrote:3) Change the system of approving proposals to one that discounts the presence of regional delegates that have been inactive for 30 days or more. In effect, you must get 6% of the regional delegates that have been active for 30 days or more to get a proposal to achieve quorum, instead of the standard "6% of all regional delegates".

I don't see the necessity in this, either. It's easy to get a well-written proposal into quorum without even campaigning. No need to make it easier.

Quadrimmina wrote:4) Allow telegrams to be sent to more than one delegation at a time, or remove the spam limit. It makes it hard to advertise otherwise.

This is has been discussed elsewhere, and I've probably given my stance before. I don't really need a mass-telegram feature, and the spam limit doesn't bother me. You could probably guess why.

Quadrimmina wrote:5) Add a 'preview' function for proposals so that mistakes are caught before submission. This would also ease the # of requests to mods to remove proposals.

Sure, why not?


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