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Postby Dogapus » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:29 am

But, I don't have a website, nor is it on a website where I can look at it without seeing other pics, it had it made for me in the seal thread
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:36 am

Dogapus wrote:But, I don't have a website, nor is it on a website where I can look at it without seeing other pics, it had it made for me in the seal thread

You have to use an uploading program like imgur, photobucket and link from the image you want to link directly.

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Postby The Most Glorious Hack » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:15 am

Also, this is not the thread for these question.
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Postby Enfaru » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:01 am

Please to have the following BBCode.

Title
This allows a hover over for text, usually it is there to explain what a link is, but I want to use it to explain meanings in my text without having to blatantly explain in the post and therefore reduce clutter.
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[title=###Text###]###Content###[/title]

<a title="###Text###">###Content###</a>


and

Clearfloat

This is an organisational problem. If you want to float three items right but want the last item to be on its own row...that's impossible without the clear:both.


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[clearfloat][/clearfloat]

<div style="clear:both;"></div>



V-Align (Vertical-Align)
This is because I want to change the position of the images I have compared to the text. It also does the sub/sup >.> but sub/sup (as they are already implemented) don't do what I want them to do.

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<div style="vertical-align:##PARAM##;">##CONTENT##</div>



I would also like to recommend a change to the floatleft BBcode. At the moment...it must be a span or something dodgy like that. Floats cannot be nested inside each other o.O

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<div style="float:##PARAM##;">##Content##</div>


Work around found
Instead of using floatleft inside a floatleft, use a floatright inside a floatleft and it'll floatleft as required =D Which means I don't have to use those damn tables!! =D

Edit

Eh no need about the comment one...I can abuse the hell out of what we have.
Also would like a comment one...

Comment
Simple really. I have content that I don't really want to appear... >=D

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[comment][/comment]
<!-- ##Content## -->


Though I'm not sure if PHP would work (which would be better...)
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[comment]##Content[/comment]
<?php
 /*
   ##Content##
 */
?>

If the latter does work, I'd prefer that =P prevents people from reading teh sauce.

Text Shadow
A simple box shadow...or highlight...depending on what the user wants.... >.>

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[textshadow=##Color?##]##Content#[/textshadow]

<div style="box-shadow: 8px 8px 5px ##Color##;>##Content##</div>




http://www.css3.info/preview/text-shadow/
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:14 am

Just my personal opinion - I don't get why the admins would want to add so many more new BBCodes to the forum like the ones you suggested. I also don't see why any of the suggestions are overly necessary.

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Postby Enfaru » Sun Dec 02, 2012 9:58 am

Most of them should be added without being added to "post" interface. (Which is possible). However, the reasoning you suggest, would also be the same for all of the current BBCodes. They merely make things look nicer, the ones I have suggested above are more usability than presentation, for instance "title" and "comment". One provides an accessibility issue so that a link can be checked for a description without cluttering the rest of the page. The comment is about hiding stuff for a 'live' post. Say for instance you want to put items in an op that you don't want to reveal to most people, then the best way to do it, is to hide them in comments.

The V-align and Textshadow are both purely presentational and mainly to make posts look prettier for those who wish to spend a little more time than usual on them.
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Postby Johz » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:16 am

Enfaru wrote:Most of them should be added without being added to "post" interface. (Which is possible). However, the reasoning you suggest, would also be the same for all of the current BBCodes. They merely make things look nicer, the ones I have suggested above are more usability than presentation, for instance "title" and "comment". One provides an accessibility issue so that a link can be checked for a description without cluttering the rest of the page. The comment is about hiding stuff for a 'live' post. Say for instance you want to put items in an op that you don't want to reveal to most people, then the best way to do it, is to hide them in comments.

The V-align and Textshadow are both purely presentational and mainly to make posts look prettier for those who wish to spend a little more time than usual on them.

I strongly suspect the text-shadow will not happen, as things like that tend to come under the 'No Garish Posts' rule. It's not especially attractive, and can easily be reproduced for titles etc. using images.

The v-align may be useful in the barest handful of cases, but if you are that keen on ensuring your post looks good, you can always just use other sites such as nswiki, iiwiki, and wikistates, which provide far better editing suites than BBCode will ever provide.

Comments, while nice, should be completely unnecessary, as your posts will only ever be read by one person. If you wish to make notes on what you've written in, say, an OP, you can always copy and paste the whole thing into notepad, and make notes in that. It might be slightly more work, but not too much if you're determined enough to make your posts look pretty.

As for your final (actually first, I seem to have worked backwards) suggestion, I recognise that it may make things slightly easier, but it is not vital. You may want to try using subscripts to make footnotes if that is not too much mess, or use more English terminology and explain the words you are using more clearly in-text.
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Postby YellowApple » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:56 am

Johz wrote:Comments, while nice, should be completely unnecessary, as your posts will only ever be read by one person. If you wish to make notes on what you've written in, say, an OP, you can always copy and paste the whole thing into notepad, and make notes in that. It might be slightly more work, but not too much if you're determined enough to make your posts look pretty.


Not true. Posts (and their BBCode) are read by lots of players, especially in cases where you're creating a form (with the code tags) for another player to fill out. Last night I was revamping my storefront's product order form in order to make it look nicer and longed for a comment tag in order to provide inline instructions that only appear when filling out the form, but not when the form is displayed. That way, I could provide instructions for each field in-line (for example, instructing players to copy/paste a specific line for each product they're ordering - the specific line being a bullet-point list with a multiplication sign - '×' - followed by quantity).

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Postby Enfaru » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:36 am

Yellowapple... try this.

[size=1]sometext[/size]

It hides it pretty well ^-^

New request.

A unicode bbcode...
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Postby Enfaru » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:35 am

Ah yes guys...

the code for "Center wrap"... is
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<style>
.parentwrap{
text-align:center;
}

.centredwrap{
display:inline-block;
*display:inline;/* For IE7*/
*zoom:1/* For IE7*/
text-align:left;
}
</style>

<div class="parentwrap"> Text here
<div id="centredwrap">
<img src="image.jpg" alt="an img" />
</div>
</div>
Works for me, but you should test it yourselves ^_^. Can I recommend
switching the "align" to three buttons as well? You know, the one with
lines? Not only does it look nicer, but it's also more user friendly.
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Re: Custom BBCodes for the new forum

Postby Alien Space Bats » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:38 pm

I'm assuming that the bgcolor functions for coloring table cells and rows have not been implemented?

Yeah, me and my tables... :P

It's just a royal pain to do this:

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[table][tr][td][align=center][background=#80BFFF][tab=126]SOME TEXT GOES HERE[/tab][tab=125][/tab][/background][/align][/td][td][align=center][background=#FFFFBF][tab=125]AND MORE GOES HERE[/tab][tab=126][/tab][/background][/align][/td][/tr][/table]

In order to get something like this:

SOME TEXT GOES HERE
AND MORE GOES HERE

... Especially when you just about have to count pixels to get it to work without ugly and annoying whitespace.
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Postby Johz » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:57 pm

Alien Space Bats wrote:I'm assuming that the bgcolor functions for coloring table cells and rows have not been implemented?

Yeah, me and my tables... :P

It's just a royal pain to do this:

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[table][tr][td][align=center][background=#80BFFF][tab=126]SOME TEXT GOES HERE[/tab][tab=125][/tab][/background][/align][/td][td][align=center][background=#FFFFBF][tab=125]AND MORE GOES HERE[/tab][tab=126][/tab][/background][/align][/td][/tr][/table]

In order to get something like this:

SOME TEXT GOES HERE
AND MORE GOES HERE

... Especially when you just about have to count pixels to get it to work without ugly and annoying whitespace.

I get ugly and annoying whitespace, presumably because my screen-width is different. It would be nice to have some sort of bgcolor thing.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:08 am

Not to gravedig this Reppy but I have a question. Do you think there'd be a way for a blocktext= code so that the forum user could set a specific left padding? It wouldn't replace the current blocktext as we could still keep that, it would just be an additional button for us users to have in our arsenal?
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Postby 1iber » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:05 pm

Sedgistan wrote:That was limited because people were unable to stop themselves building quote pyramids.

Very good idea. I'm the kind of person that would every once in a while try to make quote structures.

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Postby Ascended Rome » Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:03 pm

Is there any possibility of seeing this code added to the factbook? Things like {blocktext} would be exceptionally helpful for writing well organized factbooks or articles, but don't seem to be in the list of possible code.
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Postby Mousebumples » Mon Jun 01, 2015 8:41 pm

Ascended Rome wrote:Is there any possibility of seeing this code added to the factbook? Things like {blocktext} would be exceptionally helpful for writing well organized factbooks or articles, but don't seem to be in the list of possible code.

Try [box] I've had success using that in dispatches.
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Postby YellowApple » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:20 pm

I'm still not satisfied with the rationale behind the lack of a [font=foo]...[/font] tag. The previous answer was that websites don't have any control over which fonts are available for client machines, but there are two reasons why that isn't actually a problem:

  • It's possible to set fallback fonts if the specified font doesn't exist.
  • Technically speaking, there are things like WOFF nowadays; while I don't expect the powers-that-be to open this up to public contribution, it's still possible for a curated font list this way, and such custom font inclusion is already in use for the NationStates-specific button fonts (as specified in the "nationstates_v$VERSION.css" file).

The following custom BBCode tag specification would resolve the first issue immediately.

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[font={SIMPLETEXT}]{TEXT}[/font]


HTML:
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<span style="font-family:{SIMPLETEXT},Verdana,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;">{TEXT}</span>


The above is pulled almost verbatim from here, with the addition of fallback fonts matching the default fonts in use by the forum (Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, and the operating system's generic sans-serif font, in that order) so that - if the specified font doesn't exist on a player's machine - the browser will fallback to the default fonts and all will be well (even this isn't technically necessary, but it looks nicer than the default behavior of falling back to the browser-default font, which in my experience is usually the "serif" or "sans-serif" generic fonts).

I know this has been shot down in the past, but I fail to see why making a case for it is so taboo when there exists a very easy solution that eliminates the one problem actually cited as rationale for the current lack of a font tag without requiring any effort or energy beyond the addition in PHPBB's interface.
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Postby Whovian Tardisia » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:59 pm

I think my spoiler code is broken. I am attempting to make a spoiler labelled "Global Economics & Trade" or even just "GE&T" and I just get this:

[spoiler=GE&T]Blah blah blah, random sample text[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Global Economics & Trade]More random sample text[/spoiler]
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Postby Shazbotdom » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:03 pm

Whovian Tardisia wrote:I think my spoiler code is broken. I am attempting to make a spoiler labelled "Global Economics & Trade" or even just "GE&T" and I just get this:

[spoiler=GE&T]Blah blah blah, random sample text[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Global Economics & Trade]More random sample text[/spoiler]



More random sample text


Apparently the Spoiler tag doesn't like the & symbol.
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Postby Mousebumples » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:31 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Whovian Tardisia wrote:I think my spoiler code is broken. I am attempting to make a spoiler labelled "Global Economics & Trade" or even just "GE&T" and I just get this:

[spoiler=GE&T]Blah blah blah, random sample text[/spoiler]

[spoiler=Global Economics & Trade]More random sample text[/spoiler]



More random sample text


Apparently the Spoiler tag doesn't like the & symbol.

Spoiler tags don't like most non-letter/number characters. Apostrophes have thrown errors before, among other things. It's a known annoyance that I've just learned to work around. :blush:
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Postby Whovian Tardisia » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:40 am

Thanks! The thought occurred to me, but it seemed a bit silly.
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Postby Notre Roi » Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:15 pm

How do I make a table in which one cell spans over 3 rows?
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Postby Maltropia » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:31 pm

Notre Roi wrote:How do I make a table in which one cell spans over 3 rows?

Doesn't
look likeit's possible,Unfortunately.


Would be nice if there were the functionality, but I don't know that there is.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:30 pm

Maltropia wrote:
Notre Roi wrote:How do I make a table in which one cell spans over 3 rows?

Doesn't
look likeit's possible,Unfortunately.


Would be nice if there were the functionality, but I don't know that there is.


The only way that one can do that is to break it up into two tables, one stacked right on top of the other.

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