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Floofybit
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:49 am

Zanderlock wrote:I wonder how many issues I will have after this

5 I bet.
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Sedgistan
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Anarchy

Postby Sedgistan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:50 am

Gandoor wrote:Will there be a possibility of the outage message on the main site being updated to let people know the forums are online? Or is that something y'all don't want to do in case you have to bring them offline again?

The latter for the time being.

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:I know the server blew up and stuff, but exactly occurred?

It's for Violet or Elu to detail more fully in a News post once things are fixed.

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Podria
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Podria » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:09 am

When was the backup you're restoring from made?
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Floofybit
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Floofybit » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:10 am

Zanderlock wrote:I wonder how many issues I will have after this

Nevermind, not 5. Whatever you had before the downtime, is what you'll have after the downtime
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Sedgistan
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Anarchy

Postby Sedgistan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:11 am

Podria wrote:When was the backup you're restoring from made?

Nothing is confirmed on that.

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Podria
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Podria » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:12 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Podria wrote:When was the backup you're restoring from made?

Nothing is confirmed on that.

Ooh, scary. [violet] is gonna send us back to 2020 or something :lol2:
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Miklozia
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Miklozia » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:33 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Podria wrote:When was the backup you're restoring from made?

Nothing is confirmed on that.

When we do get confirmation on this, could you let us know? I run an RP region and losing even a week's worth of RMB is devastating.
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Terra dei Cittadini
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Ex-Nation

Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:47 am

Will the new server preserve our progress/data?
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Indo States
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Indo States » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:48 am

Are the Dispatches erased during the outage? i am wondering if the dispatches are being backed up..
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Improper Classifications » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:50 am

Indo States wrote:Are the Dispatches erased during the outage? i am wondering if the dispatches are being backed up..

I would assume they would endeavor to retain every part of NS, albeit some being restored a little later than others.
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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:54 am

My limited understanding (it's Violet and Elu who have been working on this - I'm not an admin) is that it's nation data that we might lose a little of, and potentially some telegrams too). Regional data seems fine.
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Outer Sparta
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:58 am

Can access the forums, will continue to wait until the gameside servers are back up and running.
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Vazhiristan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Vazhiristan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:00 pm

I'm not very knowledgeable about computers and so on, so I'm kind of curious.

What does this work that the admins are doing consist of? Are they physically doing things with the hardware of computer, or are they typing lines of code/text, or uploading/downloading things?

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Geidi Centauri Prime
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Geidi Centauri Prime » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:03 pm

Sedgistan wrote:My limited understanding (it's Violet and Elu who have been working on this - I'm not an admin) is that it's nation data that we might lose a little of, and potentially some telegrams too). Regional data seems fine.



If this is true I can stop playing and wasting time.

Little of...like the work of months or years?!

This was meant to be an operation of a few hours...so a "little of" can mean next to everything.

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Terra dei Cittadini
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Ex-Nation

Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:06 pm

Vazhiristan wrote:I'm not very knowledgeable about computers and so on, so I'm kind of curious.

What does this work that the admins are doing consist of? Are they physically doing things with the hardware of computer, or are they typing lines of code/text, or uploading/downloading things?

I would assume they're performing the ladder, since today's technology enables us to host servers on cyberspace.
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Vazhiristan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Vazhiristan » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:08 pm

Terra dei Cittadini wrote:
Vazhiristan wrote:I'm not very knowledgeable about computers and so on, so I'm kind of curious.

What does this work that the admins are doing consist of? Are they physically doing things with the hardware of computer, or are they typing lines of code/text, or uploading/downloading things?

I would assume they're performing the ladder.

What does that mean?

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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Thermodolia » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:14 pm

Sedgistan wrote:My limited understanding (it's Violet and Elu who have been working on this - I'm not an admin) is that it's nation data that we might lose a little of, and potentially some telegrams too). Regional data seems fine.

What kinda of nation data are we talking about? Is it Dispatch’s and such? Or perhaps issues and the like?
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Terra dei Cittadini
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Ex-Nation

Postby Terra dei Cittadini » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:23 pm

Vazhiristan wrote:
Terra dei Cittadini wrote:I would assume they're performing the ladder.

What does that mean?

The second option.
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E4B
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Ex-Nation

Postby E4B » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:40 pm

So, it makes sense. I had some personal plans (gameside) before this shutdown occured. I am also an alt of Embassies4Breakfast to make that clear.
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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:What kinda of nation data are we talking about?

Some data got corrupted. We don't know what. We don't know how much. It wasn't part of the planned maintenance. You'll find out shortly after we do what is missing.

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Upper Tuchoim
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Corporate Police State

Postby Upper Tuchoim » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:50 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What kinda of nation data are we talking about?

Some data got corrupted. We don't know what. We don't know how much. It wasn't part of the planned maintenance. You'll find out shortly after we do what is missing.


Are the servers hosted in Canada?

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TheKeyToJoy
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby TheKeyToJoy » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:50 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What kinda of nation data are we talking about?

Some data got corrupted. We don't know what. We don't know how much. It wasn't part of the planned maintenance. You'll find out shortly after we do what is missing.

I hope it’s not a lot.
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E4B
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Ex-Nation

Postby E4B » Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:57 pm

Is there any forum thread where I can ask a question about the shutdown? Because I do have at least one question.
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TheKeyToJoy
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby TheKeyToJoy » Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:05 pm

E4B wrote:Is there any forum thread where I can ask a question about the shutdown? Because I do have at least one question.

I think this thread and Technical. Actually add Mod to.
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Skyscrapers
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Anarchy

Postby Skyscrapers » Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:05 pm

TheKeyToJoy wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:Some data got corrupted. We don't know what. We don't know how much. It wasn't part of the planned maintenance. You'll find out shortly after we do what is missing.

I hope it’s not a lot.
Gandoor wrote:Will there be a possibility of the outage message on the main site being updated to let people know the forums are online? Or is that something y'all don't want to do in case you have to bring them offline again?

Phrygyene wrote:So... I need to log in with my nation before Tuesday, because it will otherwise CTE.
Will there be a grace period for CTE-prone nations, or are we powerless to stop all that too?

Sedgistan already answered this

(If you're too lazy to click, there's no update while gameside is down, so no nations will CTE but they may temporarily extend the CTE period when the gameside goes back online)

Thank you to everyone working to restore things!
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