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Postby Tiber and Rione » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:53 pm

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Tangatarehua wrote:Oh no. I just realised they said they hoped to be back online "by the end of the year" but they never specified which year!

End of 2022? 2023? 2086? Arrrgggghhhhh!

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:55 pm

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Novo Wagondia wrote:-not quoting the entire thing for the sake of brevity-

I think the best way to help the site out would to be to partner with custom ink or something and you could get X nation's flag on a shirt/mug.

The problem there is one of copyright. Loads of players use copyrighted material for their flags, so us selling print-on-demand merch with those flags would open us up to all sorts of problems.
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Postby United Calanworie » Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:28 pm

Concordant Opposition wrote:This is that one catastrophic moment when change needs to follow the event. It shouldn't have happened.

Not going to address anything here other than this. We could not have reasonably expected what happened to have happened. It was out of the blue and we had zero control over it. That is all I will say, there will presumably be a news post from Admin once this saga has concluded which may include more details.
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Postby Korea SCR » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:17 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Concordant Opposition wrote:This is that one catastrophic moment when change needs to follow the event. It shouldn't have happened.

Not going to address anything here other than this. We could not have reasonably expected what happened to have happened. It was out of the blue and we had zero control over it. That is all I will say, there will presumably be a news post from Admin once this saga has concluded which may include more details.

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Garfipple
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Ex-Nation

Postby Garfipple » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:19 pm

Ah. That's regretful. Wishing you all happy holidays! :(

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Nezania
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Postby Nezania » Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:25 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Concordant Opposition wrote:This is that one catastrophic moment when change needs to follow the event. It shouldn't have happened.

Not going to address anything here other than this. We could not have reasonably expected what happened to have happened. It was out of the blue and we had zero control over it. That is all I will say, there will presumably be a news post from Admin once this saga has concluded which may include more details.

Using zfs or mdadm as a backend for storage? I took note that the site was going to be down to replace a drive on the database server. Did you lose another drive during resilvering? If so, thank god for backups.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:02 am

Reploid Productions wrote:
Oateria wrote:I think the best way to help the site out would to be to partner with custom ink or something and you could get X nation's flag on a shirt/mug.

The problem there is one of copyright. Loads of players use copyrighted material for their flags, so us selling print-on-demand merch with those flags would open us up to all sorts of problems.


You couldn't sell X Nation's flag, but you could sell the Ex-Nation flag, no? I would definitely buy a t-shirt with the Ex-Nation flag on it.
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Postby Korea SCR » Mon Dec 26, 2022 12:40 am

Garfipple wrote:Ah. That's regretful. Wishing you all happy holidays! :(

yes :(
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Happy Boxing Day

Postby Nothinggg » Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:21 am

HAPPY BOXING DAY EVERYONE!
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Postby Korea SCR » Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:49 am

Nothinggg wrote:HAPPY BOXING DAY EVERYONE!

what?
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Postby Tee Googly Coffee Me » Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:04 am

United Calanworie wrote:
Concordant Opposition wrote:This is that one catastrophic moment when change needs to follow the event. It shouldn't have happened.

Not going to address anything here other than this. We could not have reasonably expected what happened to have happened. It was out of the blue and we had zero control over it. That is all I will say, there will presumably be a news post from Admin once this saga has concluded which may include more details.

Yeah I really don't get why some people think having a paid staff member or paid staff members would have prevented this or made it faster to fix when paid employees also deserve off time for holidays.
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Postby Kandorith » Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:13 am

I'm certainly not having any withdrawal symptoms from this downtime...

Outside was weird and scary.
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Postby Nothinggg » Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:30 am

Korea SCR wrote:
Nothinggg wrote:HAPPY BOXING DAY EVERYONE!

what?

That's a holiday in Canada. I don't celebrate it or living Canada but, I love football (soccer), and the English League plays their matchday today as a special event.
Edit: Also, in other countries like Poland, the second day of Christmas is celebrated today.
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Postby Retralik » Mon Dec 26, 2022 6:32 am

Kandorith wrote:I'm certainly not having any withdrawal symptoms from this downtime...

Outside was weird and scary.

Real life is not for the feint of heart. There are so many things to keep track of without handy factbooks at your disposal.
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Postby Yuspuize » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:27 am

Really hoping recently-edited factbooks aren’t affected. Was working on them the days before this incident and have no means to recover that content…

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And all was silent.

Postby Zanderlock » Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:53 am

The Nationstates forums were all silent. with the Raiders laying down their arms, and the WA taking a break from their awful discussion. For ONce. there was peace in NationStates.
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Postby Nothinggg » Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:12 am

I wonder what everything will look like after the database is restored from the backup.
Also, was this database blowing up supposed to happen because United Calanworie said that there would be installations of hardware, and someone said that the site back up in one hour?
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Nothi
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Postby Nothi » Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:18 am

Will the WA still exist?

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:19 am

Nothi wrote:Will the WA still exist?

When the site comes back online, yes.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:39 am

Nothinggg wrote:Also, was this database blowing up supposed to happen because United Calanworie said that there would be installations of hardware, and someone said that the site back up in one hour?

There was an unexpected problem with the changeover. The thing about unexpected problems is that we can't anticipate them.

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Postby Neo-Judia » Mon Dec 26, 2022 8:47 am

Nothinggg wrote:HAPPY BOXING DAY EVERYONE!

Huh
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Postby Msje » Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:50 am

Will our nations CTE after the server comes back up?
I hope not.
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Postby Karthos » Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:00 am

Nothi wrote:Will the WA still exist?

I truly hope not... ;P

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Postby Orifna » Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:26 am

Karthos wrote:
Nothi wrote:Will the WA still exist?

I truly hope not... ;P



The WA is (probably) part of Gameside stuff, so it should still exist. Might be a few missing papers though...
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Postby Novo Wagondia » Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:29 am

Korea SCR wrote:i hope you fix it sooner than later, because i love nationstates, it's way better than minecraft, it's just a masterpiece


About on par with Minecraft, in my opinion — two undeniable masterpieces. If only NS had a soundtrack :p

Frisbeeteria wrote:There was an unexpected problem with the changeover. The thing about unexpected problems is that we can't anticipate them.


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