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NationStates back up

Postby United Calanworie » Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:59 pm

Hello everyone,

Due to some much-needed hardware changes (replacing an end-of-life drive), the game will be down for a few hours starting at 0600 Eastern Time (New York City time), most likely on Thursday December 15th but possibly a later date some time between December 20th and 24th. It will likely be down for a few hours, but hopefully not longer. The forums will remain up, but as per usual, you will not be able to log in, anyone logged in already will remain so until the expiration of their session.

Update: We will be offline for approx 2 hours starting today Friday Dec 24th at 12:00AM PST. Click here for your local time.

Update #2: As per the notice on the site:
NationStates is closed over Christmas because the database server blew up and it will take forever to restore everything from backup. We aim to be back online by the end of the year.

The forums are currently online, and we will keep things that way if possible.


Update #3: It lives!
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Postby Eluvatar » Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:01 pm

We'll be updating this topic when we have more certainty about timing.
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Postby Chef Big Dog » Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:09 pm

I eagerly await an update
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Downtime: Update Changes?

Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:03 pm

Eluvatar wrote:We'll be updating this topic when we have more certainty about timing.
Will there be any difference in functionality or appearance?
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Postby United Calanworie » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:04 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Eluvatar wrote:We'll be updating this topic when we have more certainty about timing.
Will there be any difference in functionality or appearance?

Functionality or appearance of what?
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The Subject & Repercussions of It?

Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:05 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Will there be any difference in functionality or appearance?
Functionality or appearance of what?
The website or what is getting updated...
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Postby United Calanworie » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:06 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:Functionality or appearance of what?
The website or what is getting updated...

It’s stated in the post what is happening — we’re replacing an end of life drive. Not conducting a feature upgrade for the game.
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End of Life (Drive): What Exactly IS That?

Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:10 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:The website or what is getting updated...
It’s stated in the post what is happening — we’re replacing an end of life drive. Not conducting a feature upgrade for the game.
(Me being dumb / noob-ish) What is a “end of life drive”?
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Postby United Calanworie » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:12 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:It’s stated in the post what is happening — we’re replacing an end of life drive. Not conducting a feature upgrade for the game.
(Me being dumb / noob-ish) What is a “end of life drive”?

A storage drive on the server that runs the game is nearing the end of its lifespan. If it were to reach the end of its lifespan and die, it could cause unexpected downtime for a while. Therefore we’re remedying the problem now by replacing it.
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Hardware Drive: Explained Too Noob (aka Me)

Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:16 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:(Me being dumb / noob-ish) What is a “end of life drive”?
A storage drive on the server that runs the game is nearing the end of its lifespan. If it were to reach the end of its lifespan and die, it could cause unexpected downtime for a while. Therefore we’re remedying the problem now by replacing it.
Oh... thank you for the explanation. (Man I’m dumb; “end of life drive” is self-explanatory)

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Postby The Great Nevada Overlord » Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:53 am

Quick! The New Yorkers are down! Post inexpensive housing prices!
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Postby Independent Republic of Boldonia » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:40 am

Do we know around how many hours this will take, what is the minimum and maximum amount of time this will take?
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Dec 14, 2022 5:46 am

Independent Republic of Boldonia wrote:Do we know around how many hours this will take, what is the minimum and maximum amount of time this will take?

It depends on the staff and equipment of our host. We have no control over any aspect of this besides ordering the hardware replacement.

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Postby Hiram Land » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:04 am

Ah, I do love me some NationStates downtime. I'll be reading my Max Barry book while sipping on hot cocoa from a NationStates mug with candles from Australia and while sitting on a nice little throne of papers from the Moderation forum.
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Postby Eluvatar » Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:38 am

This will not be happening tomorrow, but we are nonetheless likely to experience some downtime in about a week. Or earlier, if it the device fails on us.
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Postby Esternial » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:26 am

United Calanworie wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:(Me being dumb / noob-ish) What is a “end of life drive”?

A storage drive on the server that runs the game is nearing the end of its lifespan. If it were to reach the end of its lifespan and die, it could cause unexpected downtime for a while. Therefore we’re remedying the problem now by replacing it.

Alternatively it could be that the server hamsters have been nibbling on something other than their kibble. Both are equally plausible.

I guess we'll never know.

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YEAHHHHHH

Postby Sourceago » Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:56 am

The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Quick! The New Yorkers are down! Post inexpensive housing prices!


QUICK GO GO GO

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Postby Austinist » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:30 pm

Sourceago wrote:
The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:Quick! The New Yorkers are down! Post inexpensive housing prices!


QUICK GO GO GO

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Postby Dawn Denac » Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:27 pm

Esternial wrote:
United Calanworie wrote:A storage drive on the server that runs the game is nearing the end of its lifespan. If it were to reach the end of its lifespan and die, it could cause unexpected downtime for a while. Therefore we’re remedying the problem now by replacing it.

Alternatively it could be that the server hamsters have been nibbling on something other than their kibble. Both are equally plausible.

I guess we'll never know.


Here I thought [violet] would remember to not make the server components so edible.
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Postby Zerotaxia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:12 am

Has the data on the affected drive been backed up? If it fails, would we lose content like factbooks or forum posts? thx

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Postby The Aituia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:09 am

Hiram Land wrote:Ah, I do love me some NationStates downtime. I'll be reading my Max Barry book while sipping on hot cocoa from a NationStates mug with candles from Australia and while sitting on a nice little throne of papers from the Moderation forum.

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Postby Eluvatar » Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:55 am

Zerotaxia wrote:Has the data on the affected drive been backed up? If it fails, would we lose content like factbooks or forum posts? thx

- Z

Yes the data was backed up a few days ago and nearly all of it has actually been moved to a different storage medium as we prepare for a swap. Starting with national trends which were relocated to have more available space weeks ago.
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Postby Cheese rules » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:03 pm

United Calanworie wrote:Hello everyone,

Due to some much-needed hardware changes (replacing an end-of-life drive), the game will be down for a few hours starting at 0600 Eastern Time (New York City time), most likely on Thursday December 15th but possibly a later date some time between December 20th and 24th. It will likely be down for a few hours, but hopefully not longer. The forums will remain up, but as per usual, you will not be able to log in, anyone logged in already will remain so until the expiration of their session.

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Postby Improper Classifications » Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:29 pm

Looks like we had one heck of a delayed update for some of the regions - 3:30 pm here on the Eastern Seaboard for a few - is this downtime at all connected?
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