NationStates

Nations should be able to make any player able to use the RMB chat.

I am the owner of a small region that is struggling to gain any population. And I feel that others being able to chat without leaving their original region would help with that.

Now it shouldn't be on by default, some regions don't want any players from other regions chatting at all, some want only regions with embassies to chat.

But I at least feel that the ability to chat no matter the diplomatic stance of two regions would be beneficial for us small or even dead regions.

We already have forums for site-wide communications. If you want more people talking in your region, you should recruit more people to your region and/or establish more diplomatic relations with other regions

Savonir wrote:We already have forums for site-wide communications. If you want more people talking in your region, you should recruit more people to your region and/or establish more diplomatic relations with other regions

Not everyone uses the forums.

It would increase spam. Probably a lot.

Frisbeeteria wrote:It would increase spam. Probably a lot.

Maybe, but it could be toggleable like how you make make it so that no nations from other regions can use your RMB.

And it can be off by default.

I don't see any reason why the entire site should be allowed to communicate on a regional RMB when forums already exist and allowing the entire site to communicate on one region's RMB would cause more Moderation problems than it is worth

Savonir wrote:I don't see any reason why the entire site should be allowed to communicate on a regional RMB when forums already exist and allowing the entire site to communicate on one region's RMB would cause more Moderation problems than it is worth

To increase traffic in regions.

The West Pacific for example might want to keep it so then only regions with embassies can use the RMB. But smaller regions can turn it on so then more traffic is made, hopefully increasing the population of said region.

The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:The West Pacific for example might want to keep it so then only regions with embassies can use the RMB.

Agreed, as they're basically are psychotic dictatorship.

How would this be worded so people may decide whether to have this or not? Would players posting be said they belong to their home region or as if they are in the current region?

Singaporen Empire wrote:It would be a very interesting concept though.

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As to the general idea being proposed in the thread, as the gameside comms development manager, it falls into my wheelhouse.

I unfortunately do not see the value in this concept. It would likely only lead to an increase in spam, and annoy the heck out of regional officers who want to prevent people from interacting in their region. As has already been noted, the forums (what we are currently using, right now) do in fact exist. Telegrams also exist. If you wish to strike up conversation with people in other regions, use those.

The Great Nevada Overlord wrote:I am the owner of a small region that is struggling to gain any population. And I feel that others being able to chat without leaving their original region would help with that.

This wouldn't build your region. You need to give your region a purpose, show why people should want to join, and only then advertise your region. If your region is dead, then let it die and join someone else's.

Pillars of History wrote:How would this be worded so people may decide whether to have this or not? Would players posting be said they belong to their home region or as if they are in the current region?

It could be in the regional settings named something like (Allow Unrestricted RMB Access).

I was thinking of something, apologies if this was shot down as an idea before.

How about a whitelist of sorts for a region? Some folks don't want to move in or out of their region for any particular reason, and I think having these whitelist exceptions could work if you want to have a particular nation the ability to talk in your region, even though no embassy has been established.

It doesn't necessarily have to be something for building a region; perhaps more of restricted communication between two large regions for selected nations, without barring everyone but Regional Officers from talking, or allowing everyone and increasing potential spam.

If anyone can comment on your RMB i suspect that would get nasty real quick

Valentine Z wrote:How about a whitelist of sorts for a region? Some folks don't want to move in or out of their region for any particular reason

It's easy enough to create puppets for establishing a presence in other regions, though...

Valentine Z wrote:I was thinking of something, apologies if this was shot down as an idea before.

How about a whitelist of sorts for a region? Some folks don't want to move in or out of their region for any particular reason, and I think having these whitelist exceptions could work if you want to have a particular nation the ability to talk in your region, even though no embassy has been established.

It doesn't necessarily have to be something for building a region; perhaps more of restricted communication between two large regions for selected nations, without barring everyone but Regional Officers from talking, or allowing everyone and increasing potential spam.

Brilliant idea! Disregard mine!

Savonir wrote:We already have forums for site-wide communications. If you want more people talking in your region, you should recruit more people to your region and/or establish more diplomatic relations with other regions

I thought we weren't allowed to have regional forum threads, unless that's been changed.

I think the idea has some merit - maybe allowing Embassies of Embassies to post as an option in the RO settings that is off by default? and/or a thing where you can give specific nations the right to post? Such as how you can give specific nations the right to recruit? I think there's plenty more that RMBs could become if we actively build them up tech wise however I am going to assume this is very back burner

Scottiesland wrote:I think the idea has some merit - maybe allowing Embassies of Embassies to post as an option in the RO settings that is off by default? and/or a thing where you can give specific nations the right to post? Such as how you can give specific nations the right to recruit? I think there's plenty more that RMBs could become if we actively build them up tech wise however I am going to assume this is very back burner

Not even the back burner. To quote what I said earlier:

United Calanworie wrote:I unfortunately do not see the value in this concept. It would likely only lead to an increase in spam, and annoy the heck out of regional officers who want to prevent people from interacting in their region. As has already been noted, the forums (what we are currently using, right now) do in fact exist. Telegrams also exist. If you wish to strike up conversation with people in other regions, use those.

United Calanworie wrote:

Scottiesland wrote:I think the idea has some merit - maybe allowing Embassies of Embassies to post as an option in the RO settings that is off by default? and/or a thing where you can give specific nations the right to post? Such as how you can give specific nations the right to recruit? I think there's plenty more that RMBs could become if we actively build them up tech wise however I am going to assume this is very back burner

Not even the back burner. To quote what I said earlier:

United Calanworie wrote:I unfortunately do not see the value in this concept. It would likely only lead to an increase in spam, and annoy the heck out of regional officers who want to prevent people from interacting in their region. As has already been noted, the forums (what we are currently using, right now) do in fact exist. Telegrams also exist. If you wish to strike up conversation with people in other regions, use those.

Yes, I saw your post earlier. I was countering the point of it being annoying by offering alternatives of controlling but still allowing expansion into who can chat on your RMB. The "Backburner" was meant as a general to most new/altered features of the RMB based on how I read the earlier discussions in the larger thread for game side ideas.

Corindia wrote:

Savonir wrote:We already have forums for site-wide communications. If you want more people talking in your region, you should recruit more people to your region and/or establish more diplomatic relations with other regions

I thought we weren't allowed to have regional forum threads, unless that's been changed.

For region members to use for general communication or hosting events, instead of using their RMB or offsite forums or Discord, no.
For recruiting new members, and perhaps "official" posting of news about the region as a whole, yes ... A maximum of one such thread per region, which should be posted in the 'Gameplay' forum: Take a look there, particularly at threads labelled either 'Recruitment' or 'Embassy' or including specific regions' names in their titles. (Note, though that some such threads belong to trans-regional groups -- such as defending or raiding ones -- rather than to actual regions:The one-thread maxmum applies to those groups, too.)
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Wouldn't setting up a regional Discord (which I gather is quite easy) and advertising this -- with a link, of course -- in your region's WFE, fulfill the role that you want RMBs to gain? I'm a member of the Discords for several regions where I don't have RMB posting rights...
(My apologies for the infrequency of my visits to those Discords to any people reading this who are more deeply involved in them: A combination of factors means that I either can't find the time or simply get the idea of doing so driven out of my head...)