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an update to the flag of afghanistan is needed

Postby Free Algerstonia » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:54 pm

the current flag of the afghanistan represents a government that is no longer ruling the country-- it should be switched to the flag of the taliban/islamic emirate of afghanistan to better represent the list of flags currently in use.
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Postby The Orwell Society » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:59 pm

No, because that would be recognizing the Taliban as fully in power, which they are not.
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Postby Aredita » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:01 pm

Wrong place. This should be posted in General.
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Postby Comfed » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:01 pm

Aredita wrote:Wrong place. This should be posted in General.

I believe that Algerstonia is referring to the flag in the list of options on the settings page.
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Postby Aredita » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:02 pm

Comfed wrote:
Aredita wrote:Wrong place. This should be posted in General.

I believe that Algerstonia is referring to the flag in the list of options on the settings page.

Ah, I see.
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:02 pm

The Orwell Society wrote:No, because that would be recognizing the Taliban as fully in power, which they are not.

they are though. they control kabul, the former government of afghanistan has no power over any part of the country. the national resistance front hardly controls any part of the country and is a rebel group that does not carry the legitimacy of the islamic republic of afghanistan. most sources list the taliban as in power-- for example, wikipedia has this.
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Postby Untecna » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:03 pm

Aredita wrote:Wrong place. This should be posted in General.

No, this is the right forum. Technical refers to site-related updates, while NSG (General) is a subforum for discussion about anything IRL.
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Postby Grishahakkaverchynot » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:14 pm

Wouldn't recognizing the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan sound insanely controversial on it's own? That's likely why it hasn't been updated.
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:16 pm

Grishahakkaverchynot wrote:Wouldn't recognizing the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan sound insanely controversial on it's own? That's likely why it hasn't been updated.

i don't think so-- after all, they are in control of both kabul and most areas of the country. it's factual that the taliban is the authority in afghanistan for now.
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Postby Untecna » Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:21 pm

The Taliban is also recognized around the world as a terrorist insurgency group.
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Postby The Orwell Society » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:09 pm

Untecna wrote:The Taliban is also recognized around the world as a terrorist insurgency group.

…and recognizing them as a government in Afghanistan is essentially supporting their acts of terrorism.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:39 pm

Is this ironic support for the Taliban?
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:40 pm

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Untecna wrote:The Taliban is also recognized around the world as a terrorist insurgency group.

…and recognizing them as a government in Afghanistan is essentially supporting their acts of terrorism.

i suppose. in the end it's not that big of a deal, i personally believe that the flag should be changed for accuracy's sake but i understand if the admins reject it due to the possibility of being seen as showing sympathy to the taliban.
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:42 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Is this ironic support for the Taliban?

this isn't support for the taliban :p i hate them. though they do control the vast majority of afghanistan and their flag is the one shown on wikipedia. though i begin to realize that changing the flag may be seen as iffy due to potentially showing support for them.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:45 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Is this ironic support for the Taliban?

this isn't support for the taliban :p i hate them. though they do control the vast majority of afghanistan and their flag is the one shown on wikipedia. though i begin to realize that changing the flag may be seen as iffy due to potentially showing support for them.

I understand. :p Honestly, It will probably be changed in the future, though it is understandably not a priority.
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Postby Panagouge » Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:17 pm

Although, if the admins make the change, there could be a choice of two Afghanistan flags, of then and now.
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Postby West Barack and East Obama » Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:29 am

Is it 'needed'? I'm living just fine without the Taliban flag being one of the flags I can choose if I decide to found a new nation. You can upload your own Taliban flag if you want, but this is hardly an urgent concern.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:03 am

Strongly opposed.

If the UN and the entirety of the world's nations have not recognized the Taliban as the legal rulers of Afghanistan, why should we?
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Postby Free Algerstonia » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:04 am

i've changed my mind about this whole thing, i no longer support changing the flag.
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Postby The Orwell Society » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:01 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:i've changed my mind about this whole thing, i no longer support changing the flag.

Good. If there ever comes a day when there is no more Afghanistan because the Taliban completely took it over, than the flag would be changed. But until then, no.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:27 pm

The Orwell Society wrote:If there ever comes a day when there is no more Afghanistan because the Taliban completely took it over, than the flag would be changed. But until then, no.

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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:18 pm

Funny how staff only shows up to scold players for trying to claim a policy, but then doesn't actually clarify their own policy while they're at it.

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Postby Ard al Islam » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:19 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:the current flag of the afghanistan represents a government that is no longer ruling the country-- it should be switched to the flag of the taliban/islamic emirate of afghanistan to better represent the list of flags currently in use.

I agree
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Postby Ard al Islam » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:22 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
The Orwell Society wrote:No, because that would be recognizing the Taliban as fully in power, which they are not.

they are though. they control kabul, the former government of afghanistan has no power over any part of the country. the national resistance front hardly controls any part of the country and is a rebel group that does not carry the legitimacy of the islamic republic of afghanistan. most sources list the taliban as in power-- for example, wikipedia has this.

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Postby Ard al Islam » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:23 pm

Free Algerstonia wrote:
Grishahakkaverchynot wrote:Wouldn't recognizing the Taliban as the legitimate government of Afghanistan sound insanely controversial on it's own? That's likely why it hasn't been updated.

i don't think so-- after all, they are in control of both kabul and most areas of the country. it's factual that the taliban is the authority in afghanistan for now.

The Taliban is in control, yes, but no one is yet recognizing it as the legitimate government, hence why they keep the tricolor.
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