[Suggestion] Restricting forumposting to older nations

[Alphazi]

Just banning website links will not help us, we need posting limits on new nations, or an upgrade to the forum software, but the status quo cannot hold if we want to have a working forum.

What the. Please I need to use puppets and your limitations just ruin it. What if I have to mean the forums.... their are situations and maybe we can complain to RL authorities?

[The Axis of Death]

Burning the haystack is a bad way to find the needle.

Also, this could make it hard for forum-based communities (like the RP forums) to grow.

I think new player limitations are a good idea, but the OP’s suggestion is very extreme. I’d suggest a considerably shorter timeframe (say a week) and lesser restrictions (like required post approval, but that could take a lot of modly effort, or an increased floodlimit, or a prohibition on image posting). That should make it possible to catch those sorts of trolls before they melt the forum.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Just banning website links will not help us, we need posting limits on new nations, or an upgrade to the forum software, but the status quo cannot hold if we want to have a working forum.

What the. Please I need to use puppets and your limitations just ruin it. What if I have to mean the forums.... their are situations and maybe we can complain to RL authorities?

RL authorities do not care unless its child porn or something like that. What is being posted is disgusting but most likely legal under the law.

[Alphazi]

Burning the haystack is a bad way to find the needle.

Also, this could make it hard for forum-based communities (like the RP forums) to grow.

I think new player limitations are a good idea, but the OP’s suggestion is very extreme. I’d suggest a considerably shorter timeframe (say a week) and lesser restrictions (like required post approval, but that could take a lot of modly effort, or an increased floodlimit, or a prohibition on image posting). That should make it possible to catch those sorts of trolls before they melt the forum.

Yes, all your are good ideas except the time frame. Just ban images posting, andpost rppoval is extreme because moderators are all volunteers and look how much new nations are created.

[Alphazi]

What the. Please I need to use puppets and your limitations just ruin it. What if I have to mean the forums.... their are situations and maybe we can complain to RL authorities?

RL authorities do not care unless its child porn or something like that. What is being posted is disgusting but most likely legal under the law.

Yes, I mean US allows porn. But It is illegal to show people under 18 porn - I sure some are under 18 here.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Or just limit the number of accounts a player can have to two per IP address. That way, the moderators will be able to easily deal with them.

That literally wouldn't work because there are already tons of users with numerous accounts. I've got 25 myself, should the mods delete all but two of mine? Hell no.

Also 'IP addresses' are ultimately meaningless, hence why the mods say that IP bans are crazy easy to get around. I'm pretty sure I get a new IP whenever I restart my router, for example.

It wouldn’t work to completely stop them, but it would at least slow them down at a much faster rate.

[Free Ravensburg]

Burning the haystack is a bad way to find the needle.

Also, this could make it hard for forum-based communities (like the RP forums) to grow.

I think new player limitations are a good idea, but the OP’s suggestion is very extreme. I’d suggest a considerably shorter timeframe (say a week) and lesser restrictions (like required post approval, but that could take a lot of modly effort, or an increased floodlimit, or a prohibition on image posting). That should make it possible to catch those sorts of trolls before they melt the forum.

Some threads require image posting.

My suggestion is to require images to be spoiled.

[Alphazi]

That literally wouldn't work because there are already tons of users with numerous accounts. I've got 25 myself, should the mods delete all but two of mine? Hell no.

Also 'IP addresses' are ultimately meaningless, hence why the mods say that IP bans are crazy easy to get around. I'm pretty sure I get a new IP whenever I restart my router, for example.

It wouldn’t work to completely stop them, but it would at least slow them down at a much faster rate.

Please, I causes way too much difficulties. The puppet idea is an culture of NS and Card Farming - I NEED CARDS.

[The Reformed American Republic]

RL authorities do not care unless its child porn or something like that. What is being posted is disgusting but most likely legal under the law.

Yes, I mean US allows porn. But It is illegal to show people under 18 porn - I sure some are under 18 here.

The police aren't going to break down the door of someone just because they post gross things on a forum. The law mainly serves to make sure the moderators clean it up.

[Alphazi]

Burning the haystack is a bad way to find the needle.

Also, this could make it hard for forum-based communities (like the RP forums) to grow.

I think new player limitations are a good idea, but the OP’s suggestion is very extreme. I’d suggest a considerably shorter timeframe (say a week) and lesser restrictions (like required post approval, but that could take a lot of modly effort, or an increased floodlimit, or a prohibition on image posting). That should make it possible to catch those sorts of trolls before they melt the forum.

Some threads require image posting.

My suggestion is to require images to be spoiled.

This only makes people more image-phobia on the forums and do not do any good.

[Luziyca]

Burning the haystack is a bad way to find the needle.

Also, this could make it hard for forum-based communities (like the RP forums) to grow.

I think new player limitations are a good idea, but the OP’s suggestion is very extreme. I’d suggest a considerably shorter timeframe (say a week) and lesser restrictions (like required post approval, but that could take a lot of modly effort, or an increased floodlimit, or a prohibition on image posting). That should make it possible to catch those sorts of trolls before they melt the forum.

For image posting, there are certainly times when I feel there are legitimate reasons to use images, especially for RP purposes (e.g. newsposts, either as headers or as articles, communiques for the coats of arms and signatures, places to help set the setting), so I don't feel like a blanket prohibition on image posting is the way to go. Likewise, Free Ravensburg's suggestion of spoiling all images would make these images less than useful.

That said, upon further reflection, six months is a bit too extreme, but I do think a week is not really long enough to weed out the trolls/spammers. A month feels like the best compromise.

[Gandoor]

RL authorities do not care unless its child porn or something like that. What is being posted is disgusting but most likely legal under the law.

Yes, I mean US allows porn. But It is illegal to show people under 18 porn - I sure some are under 18 here.

Bruh if actual pornographic websites can get away with not restricting users under 18 from the viewing their content (unless you count those 'PLEASE CLOSE THIS SITE IF YOU'RE UNDER 18 KTHX' messages as 'restricting'), US law enforcement isn't gonna give a shit about it here.

(Also aren't NS servers hosted in Canada anyways?)

[Alphazi]

Burning the haystack is a bad way to find the needle.

Also, this could make it hard for forum-based communities (like the RP forums) to grow.

I think new player limitations are a good idea, but the OP’s suggestion is very extreme. I’d suggest a considerably shorter timeframe (say a week) and lesser restrictions (like required post approval, but that could take a lot of modly effort, or an increased floodlimit, or a prohibition on image posting). That should make it possible to catch those sorts of trolls before they melt the forum.

For image posting, there are certainly times when I feel there are legitimate reasons to use images, especially for RP purposes (e.g. newsposts, either as headers or as articles, communiques for the coats of arms and signatures, places to help set the setting), so I don't feel like a blanket prohibition on image posting is the way to go. Likewise, Free Ravensburg's suggestion of spoiling all images would make these images less than useful.

That said, upon further reflection, six months is a bit too extreme, but I do think a week is not really long enough to weed out the trolls/spammers. A month feels like the best compromise.

A Month’ way too much. I have puppets and everyone does, and you are discriminating them. I hate this idea generally.

[Alphazi]

Yes, I mean US allows porn. But It is illegal to show people under 18 porn - I sure some are under 18 here.

Bruh if actual pornographic websites can get away with not restricting users under 18 from the viewing their content (unless you count those 'PLEASE CLOSE THIS SITE IF YOU'RE UNDER 18 KTHX' messages as 'restricting'), US law enforcement isn't gonna give a shit about it here.

(Also aren't NS servers hosted in Canada anyways?)

Sorry. I giving up this idea and I using this heated discussion to boost my posts.

[Great Algerstonia]

Why not limit new posters who do their first... say 10 posts, to moderator approval?

[Southeast Marajarbia]

Burning the haystack is a bad way to find the needle.

Also, this could make it hard for forum-based communities (like the RP forums) to grow.

I think new player limitations are a good idea, but the OP’s suggestion is very extreme. I’d suggest a considerably shorter timeframe (say a week) and lesser restrictions (like required post approval, but that could take a lot of modly effort, or an increased floodlimit, or a prohibition on image posting). That should make it possible to catch those sorts of trolls before they melt the forum.

For image posting, there are certainly times when I feel there are legitimate reasons to use images, especially for RP purposes (e.g. newsposts, either as headers or as articles, communiques for the coats of arms and signatures, places to help set the setting), so I don't feel like a blanket prohibition on image posting is the way to go. Likewise, Free Ravensburg's suggestion of spoiling all images would make these images less than useful.

That said, upon further reflection, six months is a bit too extreme, but I do think a week is not really long enough to weed out the trolls/spammers. A month feels like the best compromise.

A month is way better than six. If newer, more legitimate members had to wait for six months just to use a forum or two, they would just stop playing and CTE at a much faster rate.

[Alphazi]

Why not limit new posters who do their first... say 10 posts, to moderator approval?

I have to repeat that their are to much news nations, all moderators are volunteers, and this is too hectic.

[Alphazi]

For image posting, there are certainly times when I feel there are legitimate reasons to use images, especially for RP purposes (e.g. newsposts, either as headers or as articles, communiques for the coats of arms and signatures, places to help set the setting), so I don't feel like a blanket prohibition on image posting is the way to go. Likewise, Free Ravensburg's suggestion of spoiling all images would make these images less than useful.

That said, upon further reflection, six months is a bit too extreme, but I do think a week is not really long enough to weed out the trolls/spammers. A month feels like the best compromise.

A month is way better than six. If newer, more legitimate members had to wait for six months just to use a forum or two, they would just stop playing and CTE at a much faster rate.

One Months way too much. I can hardly wait 3 days to post on the forums

[The Reformed American Republic]

Why not limit new posters who do their first... say 10 posts, to moderator approval?

Good idea, but the forum software is too old for that.

[Great Algerstonia]

Why not limit new posters who do their first... say 10 posts, to moderator approval?

Good idea, but the forum software is too old for that.

That's true. Would it be possible to limit new players to post images until a certain threshold, whether it be days old or post amount, has been reached?

[Alphazi]

Why not put a 10 minute post cool down for new nations less then a week old ?

[Luziyca]

Why not limit new posters who do their first... say 10 posts, to moderator approval?

It would add far more to the moderators' plates, and it would certainly not be an efficient way to deal with the problem that the forums are facing.

A month is way better than six. If newer, more legitimate members had to wait for six months just to use a forum or two, they would just stop playing and CTE at a much faster rate.

One Months way too much. I can hardly wait 3 days to post on the forums

One month is honestly the perfect balance between keeping spammers out of the forums, and letting users with a legitimate reason to go forumside in. I didn't even discover the current forums when I first joined in 2009 until I was about a month or so in.

[Free Ravensburg]

Why not limit new posters who do their first... say 10 posts, to moderator approval?

It would add far more to the moderators' plates, and it would certainly not be an efficient way to deal with the problem that the forums are facing.

One Months way too much. I can hardly wait 3 days to post on the forums

One month is honestly the perfect balance between keeping spammers out of the forums, and letting users with a legitimate reason to go forumside in. I didn't even discover the current forums when I first joined in 2009 until I was about a month or so in.

What about 4 weeks?

[Gigaverse]

Maybe the forums need software upgrade, I don't know.

[Alphazi]

It would add far more to the moderators' plates, and it would certainly not be an efficient way to deal with the problem that the forums are facing.


One month is honestly the perfect balance between keeping spammers out of the forums, and letting users with a legitimate reason to go forumside in. I didn't even discover the current forums when I first joined in 2009 until I was about a month or so in.

What about 4 weeks?

Honestly, this is too much. Allow them to post, but add a 10 minute cool down so mods can clean and delete nation before they can make their second post.