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Drawkland
Senator
 
Posts: 4573
Founded: Aug 27, 2013
Democratic Socialists

Postby Drawkland » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:29 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:Would it be too much to have a button on our nation pages to tell us which place we're in? Or just an icon that can change as the game progresses?

When you get voted on, you'll be placed onto the leaderboard, and there will be a note on your main nation page. You can also check your regional leaderboard to see if you're listed there.
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Silvedania
Minister
 
Posts: 3161
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Silvedania » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:38 pm

The leaderboard tab at the top of the screen is outdated.
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NS Stats are mostly accurate except for a few things, like this nation is capitalist and the death penalty isn't in effect

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[violet]
Executive Director
 
Posts: 16207
Founded: Antiquity

Postby [violet] » Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:39 pm

Silvedania wrote:The leaderboard tab at the top of the screen is outdated.

Yes, it can lag by a few minutes.

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Alfonzo
Envoy
 
Posts: 223
Founded: Dec 27, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Alfonzo » Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:03 pm

I wish nation cards had the region they were in too.
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Nevertopia
Minister
 
Posts: 3159
Founded: May 27, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Nevertopia » Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:25 pm

hope its stock market related. the GME meme is alive and well
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
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Frenchy II
Envoy
 
Posts: 247
Founded: May 31, 2017
Ex-Nation

Postby Frenchy II » Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:59 pm

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consistently running into this issue as well as the inability to select any option other than neither on this nation.
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Drew Durrnil
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1830
Founded: Apr 30, 2020
Anarchy

Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:12 pm

Frenchy II wrote:(Image)
consistently running into this issue as well as the inability to select any option other than neither on this nation.

Same here
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[violet]
Executive Director
 
Posts: 16207
Founded: Antiquity

Postby [violet] » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:29 pm

Frenchy II wrote:(Image)
consistently running into this issue as well as the inability to select any option other than neither on this nation.

When you vote, two new nations are selected for your consideration. If you then vote for anyone but those two, you will hit this error.

It can be triggered if you have a couple of browser tabs open to the voting page: Once you vote in the first tab, the choices in the second tab will become invalid.

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Tinhampton
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 13705
Founded: Oct 05, 2016
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Tinhampton » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:36 pm

[violet] wrote:When you vote, two new nations are selected for your consideration...

So what happens if we somehow manage to encounter all 247,500 nations or so on our electoral travels, since there won't be any "new nations" to choose from? :P
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The Stalker
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1274
Founded: Jan 04, 2012
Father Knows Best State

Postby The Stalker » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:36 pm

The RNG seems off, how can some nations be rated several times by now, while others haven't been rated at all.

Seems like if your nation got an upvote earlier on it is likely to remain in the top and receive more chances for votes, while if your nation was rate down once, or never rated you're unlikely to ever make the top 30k.
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Westinor
Issues Editor
 
Posts: 1348
Founded: Feb 15, 2020
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Westinor » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:42 pm

The Stalker wrote:The RNG seems off, how can some nations be rated several times by now, while others haven't been rated at all.

Seems like if your nation got an upvote earlier on it is likely to remain in the top and receive more chances for votes, while if your nation was rate down once, or never rated you're unlikely to ever make the top 30k.

I'd suspect perhaps it's a result of some nations choosing "neither"? I'm not entirely sure, just a guess.
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The Stalker
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1274
Founded: Jan 04, 2012
Father Knows Best State

Postby The Stalker » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:54 pm

Just got Sp0ink for a second time, and my nation hasn't even been voted on.... >_>

Basically, anyone in the top 100 stands a chance, anyone who isn't or hasn't gotten a vote yet has already lost.

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The Mad King of Hell
I am the "who" when you call, "Who's there?"
Hell's Bells: Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
This isn't Wall Street, this is Hell. We have a little something called integrity.
And I heard as it were the noise of thunder, One of the four beasts saying come and see and I saw, and behold...

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[violet]
Executive Director
 
Posts: 16207
Founded: Antiquity

Postby [violet] » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:56 pm

Tinhampton wrote:
[violet] wrote:When you vote, two new nations are selected for your consideration...

So what happens if we somehow manage to encounter all 247,500 nations or so on our electoral travels, since there won't be any "new nations" to choose from? :P

You can get repeats. I mean "new" just in the sense that it's a new random draw each time.

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South Reinkalistan
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1785
Founded: Mar 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby South Reinkalistan » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:56 pm

Is there an option to turn this feature off?
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9003
Diplomat
 
Posts: 624
Founded: Oct 25, 2012
Corporate Police State

Postby 9003 » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:58 pm

The Stalker wrote:The RNG seems off, how can some nations be rated several times by now, while others haven't been rated at all.

Seems like if your nation got an upvote earlier on it is likely to remain in the top and receive more chances for votes, while if your nation was rate down once, or never rated you're unlikely to ever make the top 30k.


This just proves that it is a more true random sample that doesn't remove anyone from the pool.
There is always also a chance that your nation came up and got voted against this would also result in not having a ranking (or there are limited votes for)
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Comfed
Minister
 
Posts: 2258
Founded: Apr 09, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Comfed » Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:59 pm

South Reinkalistan wrote:Is there an option to turn this feature off?

You can ignore it, it's just a green banner at the top of the page.

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[violet]
Executive Director
 
Posts: 16207
Founded: Antiquity

Postby [violet] » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:01 pm

The Stalker wrote:The RNG seems off, how can some nations be rated several times by now, while others haven't been rated at all.

Seems like if your nation got an upvote earlier on it is likely to remain in the top and receive more chances for votes, while if your nation was rate down once, or never rated you're unlikely to ever make the top 30k.

Randomness is like that! It's not a round robin where all nations would be voted on the same number of times.

Once the event is six hours old, you are less likely to be asked to vote on nations with few/no votes. Beginning then, there will indeed be a kind of snowball effect. But nations earn points based on the quality of the nations they are preferred over, so they can catch up quickly. That is, it's better to be preferred once over a popular nation than to be preferred several times over an unpopular one.

Right now, though, it is purely random draws.

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Refuge Isle
Technical Moderator
 
Posts: 1905
Founded: Dec 14, 2018
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Refuge Isle » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:03 pm

I'm consistently getting a malfunction where clicking on a option recycles the match, possibly registering multiple votes. Waiting the for page to fully load, leaving the page and come back, picking the other candidate, none of these change anything. Only clicking "neither" will resolve a bugged match immediately, otherwise I can keep clicking a vote 30-40 times before it will move on.

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Silvedania
Minister
 
Posts: 3161
Founded: Apr 17, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Silvedania » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:03 pm

[violet] wrote:
The Stalker wrote:The RNG seems off, how can some nations be rated several times by now, while others haven't been rated at all.

Seems like if your nation got an upvote earlier on it is likely to remain in the top and receive more chances for votes, while if your nation was rate down once, or never rated you're unlikely to ever make the top 30k.

Randomness is like that! It's not a round robin where all nations would be voted on the same number of times.

Once the event is six hours old, you are less likely to be asked to vote on nations with few/no votes. Beginning then, there will indeed be a kind of snowball effect. But nations earn points based on the quality of the nations they are preferred over, so they can catch up quickly. That is, it's better to be preferred once over a popular nation than to be preferred several times over an unpopular one.

Right now, though, it is purely random draws.

Now I really dislike randomness...
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NS Stats are mostly accurate except for a few things, like this nation is capitalist and the death penalty isn't in effect

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The Stalker
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1274
Founded: Jan 04, 2012
Father Knows Best State

Postby The Stalker » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:12 pm

[violet] wrote:Right now, though, it is purely random draws.


Hmm ok, gotta believe that's true since you wrote the script lol. Crazy i've gotten repeats of the top people though, gotta be astronomical odds of that.
The Mad King of Hell
I am the "who" when you call, "Who's there?"
Hell's Bells: Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
This isn't Wall Street, this is Hell. We have a little something called integrity.
And I heard as it were the noise of thunder, One of the four beasts saying come and see and I saw, and behold...

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Drew Durrnil
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1830
Founded: Apr 30, 2020
Anarchy

Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:15 pm

Refuge Isle wrote:I'm consistently getting a malfunction where clicking on a option recycles the match, possibly registering multiple votes. Waiting the for page to fully load, leaving the page and come back, picking the other candidate, none of these change anything. Only clicking "neither" will resolve a bugged match immediately, otherwise I can keep clicking a vote 30-40 times before it will move on.

To quote [violet]:
[violet] wrote:When you vote, two new nations are selected for your consideration. If you then vote for anyone but those two, you will hit this error.

It can be triggered if you have a couple of browser tabs open to the voting page: Once you vote in the first tab, the choices in the second tab will become invalid.
also known as pacific shores
author of sc #434
professional slab worshipper
lieutenant of the south pacific special forces
2023 ananke award co-winner
Rosartemis wrote:DOWN WITH UEPU THOSE DAMNED RAIDERS!

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The Unified Missourtama States
Diplomat
 
Posts: 670
Founded: Jul 30, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:15 pm

[violet] wrote:Randomness is like that! It's not a round robin where all nations would be voted on the same number of times.

Once the event is six hours old, you are less likely to be asked to vote on nations with few/no votes. Beginning then, there will indeed be a kind of snowball effect. But nations earn points based on the quality of the nations they are preferred over, so they can catch up quickly. That is, it's better to be preferred once over a popular nation than to be preferred several times over an unpopular one.

Right now, though, it is purely random draws.

Right now, at past 4 hours into the event I still don't have a ranking on my nation page. That means I haven't even been put in a match yet, correct? I would like to be ranked, but it looks like there's a good chance I won't get any ranking at all with what you've said

no fun :(
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Lenlyvit
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1370
Founded: Feb 13, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Lenlyvit » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:18 pm

[violet] wrote:Once the event is six hours old, you are less likely to be asked to vote on nations with few/no votes.

Can you explain this better please? From what I get, you're saying that any nation not yet ranked at the 6 hour mark won't be voted upon after that point?
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Drew Durrnil
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1830
Founded: Apr 30, 2020
Anarchy

Postby Drew Durrnil » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:20 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:
[violet] wrote:Once the event is six hours old, you are less likely to be asked to vote on nations with few/no votes.

Can you explain this better please? From what I get, you're saying that any nation not yet ranked at the 6 hour mark won't be voted upon after that point?

I'm pretty sure she's saying that nations with little votes at 21:00 PST will show up less frequently.
also known as pacific shores
author of sc #434
professional slab worshipper
lieutenant of the south pacific special forces
2023 ananke award co-winner
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Southern Xenick
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Posts: 1169
Founded: Aug 20, 2020
New York Times Democracy

Postby Southern Xenick » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:22 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:
Lenlyvit wrote:Can you explain this better please? From what I get, you're saying that any nation not yet ranked at the 6 hour mark won't be voted upon after that point?

I'm pretty sure she's saying that nations with little votes at 21:00 PST will show up less frequently.

My alts got more votes than me
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