[Suggestion] Prevent Recruitment TGs to Puppet Sets

[Miravana]

Problem: With Cards and Gameplay being in extreme phases of growth, the amount of puppet sets continues to soar. This is making it much more difficult for recruiters to get their TGs to actual new players. There are many potential fixes to this, but not many that are easy without extensive enforcement, or player co-operation, both of which are doubtful to happen. However, I believe I have discovered a potential fix to this problem that in theory would be easy to install (I don't know the backside of NS code, so maybe not be here's the idea anyway)

Solution: Provide an optional setting to recruiters of "Do not send recruitment TGs to Nations with numbers in their name." Puppet sets often, while not always, are numbered for the convenience of the player. The majority of new players tend to not have numbers in their name, making this exclusion extremely beneficial to recruiters trying to make the most of their time/money. While it may mean missing out on the few people naming their nations 'Brazilistan 420', I'm sure this is a feature many recruiters would appreciate and use.

[Libertanny]

As said in NSGP, I fully support the idea and hope, that this feature can be added.

[Sokala]

I support this. 100%.

[Tinhampton]

How will the game tell the difference between Miravana 2, Miravana II, Miravana Two, and Miravana the Second?

[Heaveria]

I agree, definitely. It can help us avoid hitting the system more times than needed to always cross-check for specific filters. It’s a win-win .

[Caer Snowdon]

YES PLEASE

[Heaveria]

How will the game tell the difference between Miravana 2, Miravana II, Miravana Two, and Miravana the Second?

Anything is better than nothing
I’d be glad with just the implementation of the initial request.

[Libertanny]

How will the game tell the difference between Miravana 2, Miravana II, Miravana Two, and Miravana the Second?

Anything is better than nothing
I’d be glad with just the implementation of the initial request.

Same, especially since anyways majority of puppetmasters use puppets with regular numbers in them.

[Galdanulia]

I mean, I never number my nations, but I fully support this. Far too many API recruiting runs of mine have been spoiled by card farmers and R/D puppets.

[The Nation of the People of the Nation]

Support.

[9003]

But if when I'm founding puppets is my style of game play is making people waste money on my puppets becuse it's funny /s

Full support while I do enjoy wasting other peoples money when I'm founding puppets it makes recruiting a huge pain in the butt

A more back end intensive method would be a hidden puppet check box that skips the 2nd page questions or mildly looser throttle or some other means to make it an incentive to make puppets and mark them such but not intrude on the every day player.

Even making a dent in the number of wasted recruiter messages would be a good thing.

[Alistia]

I would be for this.

I recently founded a set of 100 puppets for card farming, did the first half or so with NS++, which automatically blocks telegrams from coming in, but once I got rate limited and could no longer create new nations in big groups, I switched to manually creating them. Didn't block out telegrams on all the manually created ones as doing that for all 50 or whatever would've increased the time needed to make them all, but did feel bad seeing that recruitment tg's were sent to them.

[The Unified Missourtama States]

If you're sending telegrams through the API you can filter out numbered nations on your side with a modified telegram client. I see no need to waste a game administrator's time on this.

[LollerLand]

Full support.

[Andusre]

I've made my grievances with the current state of recruiting well known to the NSGP discord server. The amount of resources being wasted on raiding/defending + card farming puppets in particular has become absolutely crippling for UCRs - especially small ones (less than maybe 100-200 nations?) who can't afford & don't have the complicated & sophisticated recruiting & retention infrastructure which many of the feeders (TNP in particular) and the large UCRs have.

I'm a firm UCR player & I share the belief with many that the game is healthy when UCRs are healthy, and I don't think UCRs are particularly healthy right now. I think this would go a long way to rectifying something I've been quite unhappy with for a good number of months now.

Full support.

[Flanderlion]

Better solution would be to allow stamp recruitment through the API, so you could filter puppets without getting the extreme rate limit penalties of API.

Re this, I would personally just make puppets without numbers, and use Roman numerals like my Finflu sets, or letters like my Flanderlionian Team sets. Spreading the excessive TGs out more reduces spam slightly on new nations, and brings in more revenue for the game to spend on servers and the like. Narrowing it results in new nations receiving more TGs, and less stamps being bought.

[Svenskskit]

Great idea, but as others have mentioned, some people create puppets that either aren't numbered using Arabic numerals or don't use a numbering system at all. A better solution to me would be the ability to flag a nation as a puppet upon registration, which would allow it to operate as a normal nation but exclude it from recruitment telegrams.

[Miravana]

While I agree a more extensive solution would be ideal, this was meant to be a middle ground of not as hard to implement and still very beneficial. While not every puppet set is numbered, a good many of them are. At this point any positive change to the recruitment system is sorely needed, and whether it is this or something more comprehensive I hope implementation is considered.

[The Python]

Yes! This is a great idea!

[The Gilded Ray]

I fully support this proposal.

[Comfed]

It’s not perfect, but it sure is better than nothing. Support.

[Alcavia]

Full support; great idea.

[Oneid1]

Full support.

[Drew Durrnil]

Full support,

[Imperium Anglorum]

If you're using API recruiting, with certain clients, you can impose a regex filter. Thus, applying filters like

Code: Select all

-regex:.+[0-9]+(.*)?  # no numbers anywhere
-regex:.*[ _]+m{0,4}(cm|cd|d?c{0,3})(xc|xl|l?x{0,3})(ix|iv|v?i{0,3})$  # no ending roman numerals
-regex:.*n[i1]gg[e3]r.*  # no n-words with basic l33t substitutions
-regex:.*n[4a]z[i1].*  # no nazis, does catch Ashkenazi ironically, but a cursory check in `/usr/share/dict/words | grep nazi` doesn't yield anything else


You can avoid sending recruitment telegrams to nations with such names. There are surely some changes that could be applied to the regexes but when I set them up one or two years ago I was lazy and said 'good enough'.