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Postby Noahs Second Country » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:49 pm

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

Or the removal of any automatic boosts in rarity that staff members receive.
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Postby Morover » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:52 pm

Noahs Second Country wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

Or the removal of any automatic boosts in rarity that staff members receive.

I agree with this. Maybe a slight boost, similar to that of commendation or condemnation.

Also, adding a new rarity is a bad idea.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:31 pm

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.


Is it that legendary is a certain amount of slots? Or a certain "score" that one has to reach?
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Postby Praeceps » Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:32 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.


Is it that legendary is a certain amount of slots? Or a certain "score" that one has to reach?

Based on the limited information available (eg. comparing the number of legendaries in two seasons), I believe (and by believing, what I have heard from other experienced card players) that the number of legendaries is proportionate to the number of nations that are having a card made for them.
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Postby Levy » Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:54 pm

I feel like a “Mythic” rarity would be appropriate, considering many other games with similar rarity systems have a high or unique rank called “Mythic”. Maybe moderator cards can be Mythics? Or some higher ranking NS Members card?
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Postby Apostate » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:20 pm

Noahs Second Country wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

Or the removal of any automatic boosts in rarity that staff members receive.


This is an interesting proposal as an alternative to staff members being legends “just because”

The idea of deck play is that different decks change their cards and how they “work” ( magic the gathering, etc). This keeps it all INTERESTING. Someone asked “why should we do this?” That is the answer, the card game gets BORING.

Farmers hoarding piles , average collectors slogging through crap, and noobs giving up will not keep the card game vibrant, interesting and engaging. That should be reason enough for any game developer to entertain new ideas. I would hope.

Also, to entertain an idea, not that “I” would benefit from this, but using existing alignment “chaotic neutral” etc. a board of the top card collectors could likely better weigh in on the feasibility of such a change to the card itself, while not changing rarity but rather adding a category based on nation behavior. I see the obstacles but also it could be INTERESTING.
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Postby Luna Amore » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:27 pm

Levy wrote:I feel like a “Mythic” rarity would be appropriate, considering many other games with similar rarity systems have a high or unique rank called “Mythic”. Maybe moderator cards can be Mythics? Or some higher ranking NS Members card?

Plus the first Mythical card already exists. :p

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Postby DavanteAdams » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:31 pm

Very true Luna, Very True... :lol2:
Well this seems to be very split down the middle between yes and no.
We have about 33 for yes and 31 for no. This will be up to the techies.
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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:45 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:Very true Luna, Very True... :lol2:
Well this seems to be very split down the middle between yes and no.
We have about 33 for yes and 31 for no. This will be up to the techies.

37-28* in favour of ‘no’ and it was always up to the tech staff. NS a democracy? That’s not how it flies. :eyebrow:
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Postby DavanteAdams » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:13 pm

Mathuvan Union wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:Very true Luna, Very True... :lol2:
Well this seems to be very split down the middle between yes and no.
We have about 33 for yes and 31 for no. This will be up to the techies.

37-28* in favour of ‘no’ and it was always up to the tech staff. NS a democracy? That’s not how it flies. :eyebrow:

No, the people that said "Yes but I dont know what it should be," is yes. So, 33-32, in favor of yes.

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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:18 pm

I've removed the poll from the thread. Polls are less than useless (anyone can puppetspam them), and are not relevant to Technical forum discussions. Admins don't make decisions based on votes; they make them based on compelling arguments.

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Postby DavanteAdams » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:57 pm

Sedgistan wrote:I've removed the poll from the thread. Polls are less than useless (anyone can puppetspam them), and are not relevant to Technical forum discussions. Admins don't make decisions based on votes; they make them based on compelling arguments.

Well I had not created the poll to encourage mods and techies. I had made it so Myself and others could see peoples opinions.

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Postby The Marsupial Illuminati » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:04 pm

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

I thought this was false. Isn’t it the case that staff do not take up any limited Legendary slots? There is 1 Legendary card for every 1000 nations existing during the card creation snapshot, plus 1 Legendary for every non-mentor staff member. Please correct me if this is not the case.
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Postby Noahs Second Country » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:14 pm

The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

I thought this was false. Isn’t it the case that staff do not take up any limited Legendary slots? There is 1 Legendary card for every 1000 nations existing during the card creation snapshot, plus 1 Legendary for every non-mentor staff member. Please correct me if this is not the case.

There were ~184000 cards in s1, with 184 legendary cards. In s2, ~169000 with 169 legendary cards. So 1/1000.

With a dozen CTE legendary cards this season and many more nations, we can expect 70 new legendary cards this season, assuming it comes soon and the ratio remains the same.
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Postby DavanteAdams » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:10 pm

The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

I thought this was false. Isn’t it the case that staff do not take up any limited Legendary slots? There is 1 Legendary card for every 1000 nations existing during the card creation snapshot, plus 1 Legendary for every non-mentor staff member. Please correct me if this is not the case.

Yes, but I think it would be nice for players to have their rarities and Mods and Staff to have their own. That way they are recognized in their own way, and so are players.

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Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:20 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:I thought this was false. Isn’t it the case that staff do not take up any limited Legendary slots? There is 1 Legendary card for every 1000 nations existing during the card creation snapshot, plus 1 Legendary for every non-mentor staff member. Please correct me if this is not the case.

Yes, but I think it would be nice for players to have their rarities and Mods and Staff to have their own. That way they are recognized in their own way, and so are players.

Staff are players.

Anyways, I'll repeat what I've said before, adding a new rarity is a horrible idea.
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Postby DavanteAdams » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:25 pm

The Unified Missourtama States wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:Yes, but I think it would be nice for players to have their rarities and Mods and Staff to have their own. That way they are recognized in their own way, and so are players.

Staff are players.

Anyways, I'll repeat what I've said before, adding a new rarity is a horrible idea.

Well its not all about what you think. So stop spamming.

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Postby Mathuvan Union » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:42 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
The Unified Missourtama States wrote:Staff are players.

Anyways, I'll repeat what I've said before, adding a new rarity is a horrible idea.

Well its not all about what you think. So stop spamming.

He’s voicing his opinion—not spamming.
What are your reasons then? None of the ones you’ve stated have actually stood.
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Mathuvan Union wrote:37-28* in favour of ‘no’ and it was always up to the tech staff. NS a democracy? That’s not how it flies. :eyebrow:

No, the people that said "Yes but I dont know what it should be," is yes. So, 33-32, in favor of yes.

:eyebrow: as Sedge said, votes don’t matter.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:18 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:Well its not all about what you think. So stop spamming.

It kinda is. That's what a technical discussion thread is about: what people think about suggestions. And I don't see "moderator" by your name, so you have no reason to be commanding someone to stop spamming. If you think there's spam happening, report it so the moderators can address it.

So far I've not seen any particularly compelling reason to add a new rarity; the entire suggestion in its present form looks like a solution looking for a problem. Granted, that is entirely up to the techies, not the mods, but their silence on the subject is rather telling.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:20 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:Well its not all about what you think. So stop spamming.

They are welcome to post what they think. "Disagreeing with you" != "spamming"

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Postby DavanteAdams » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:50 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:Well its not all about what you think. So stop spamming.

They are welcome to post what they think. "Disagreeing with you" != "spamming"

lol. God Damn I was joking :rofl:

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Frisbeeteria wrote:They are welcome to post what they think. "Disagreeing with you" != "spamming"

lol. God Damn I was joking :rofl:

Congratulations on learning today that tone does not convey well via text!
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Postby DavanteAdams » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:58 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:lol. God Damn I was joking :rofl:

Congratulations on learning today that tone does not convey well via text!

Hmm. :blink:
I always thought it did... Maybe thats why that girl broke up with me... :rofl:

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Postby Honeydewistania » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:19 pm

The Marsupial Illuminati wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

I thought this was false. Isn’t it the case that staff do not take up any limited Legendary slots? There is 1 Legendary card for every 1000 nations existing during the card creation snapshot, plus 1 Legendary for every non-mentor staff member. Please correct me if this is not the case.

Could we have this then? Staff members don’t take up limited spots in whatever rarity they get, I think it’s a good idea
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Postby Obuba » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:28 pm

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Reploid Productions wrote:Congratulations on learning today that tone does not convey well via text!

Hmm. :blink:
I always thought it did... Maybe thats why that girl broke up with me... :rofl:


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