NATION

PASSWORD

New Card Rarity

Bug reports, general help, ideas for improvements, and questions about how things are meant to work.

Advertisement

Remove ads

User avatar
DavanteAdams
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 409
Founded: Sep 18, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:21 am

Free Las Pinas wrote:Alternatively, how about a card rarity even lower than common cards?

/s

Yes but what would that be worth?
If it is lower than .01 that would take a lot of programming so we have more bank options.

User avatar
Mathuvan Union
Senator
 
Posts: 4748
Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:24 am

DavanteAdams wrote:
Free Las Pinas wrote:Alternatively, how about a card rarity even lower than common cards?

/s

Yes but what would that be worth?
If it is lower than .01 that would take a lot of programming so we have more bank options.

What if the Common had .01 worth and the Ultra Common has 0.02 worth
Last edited by Various Dictators on 1/1/0001, at 12:00 AM, edited 9,000 times in total
G'day. I have nothing to say. Damn. this rhymes. LOOK AWAY, MORTAL BEINGS!
Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic of all times. Yes, I am Hobbes
Best Song Ever. At The Rainbow in ‘74. Awesome.
Male. Refer to me as ‘he’ or I will bring memes. You do not want my memes.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch

User avatar
DavanteAdams
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 409
Founded: Sep 18, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:40 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:Yes but what would that be worth?
If it is lower than .01 that would take a lot of programming so we have more bank options.

What if the Common had .01 worth and the Ultra Common has 0.02 worth

Eh that would seem pointless to me.

User avatar
Holland DS6
Envoy
 
Posts: 207
Founded: Dec 06, 2019
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Holland DS6 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:55 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:Yes but what would that be worth?
If it is lower than .01 that would take a lot of programming so we have more bank options.

What if the Common had .01 worth and the Ultra Common has 0.02 worth

I get the name suggestion, but it sounds more valuable than .02, with the ultra, and a little disappointing since it is only worth .02
If you want to send me any cards, best if you send it to this one, Holland DS6, I just need more bank on this account if I want to upgrade the limit, but I just keep wanting to buy cards worth more, cards I like or cards for a collection that I am working on, I already had a lot of cards in the catagory, so mind as well make it an official collection that I could possibly already complete. I try not to break the rules, so if I do it by accident, please just tell me mods, although it would have to be through the TG only for mods, like Ransium had to due to class region. I didn't really check for spellings, so it may be a little unclear, sorry. :P More in my factbook on card+gifts.
Finally getting my own card soon!

User avatar
Mathuvan Union
Senator
 
Posts: 4748
Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:56 am

Holland DS6 wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:What if the Common had .01 worth and the Ultra Common has 0.02 worth

I get the name suggestion, but it sounds more valuable than .02, with the ultra, and a little disappointing since it is only worth .02

so Uncommon is 0.02, Ultra Common is 0.05
Last edited by Various Dictators on 1/1/0001, at 12:00 AM, edited 9,000 times in total
G'day. I have nothing to say. Damn. this rhymes. LOOK AWAY, MORTAL BEINGS!
Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic of all times. Yes, I am Hobbes
Best Song Ever. At The Rainbow in ‘74. Awesome.
Male. Refer to me as ‘he’ or I will bring memes. You do not want my memes.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch

User avatar
Noahs Second Country
Issues Editor
 
Posts: 1786
Founded: Aug 31, 2016
Anarchy

Postby Noahs Second Country » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:23 pm

Wouldn't an ultra-common mean that the card would be more common?

Why would those cards be worth more? Why am I even entertaining this idea?

A new "in-between" rarity would be even worse than a new top-level rarity.
Westinor wrote:Who knew the face of Big Farma could be the greatest hero of the Cards Proleteriat?
Honeydewistania wrote:Such spunk and arrogance that he welcomes the brigade of hatred!
WeKnow wrote:I am not a fan of his in the slightest.
Benevolent 0 wrote:You can't seem to ever portray yourself straight.
Bormiar wrote: reckless and greedy, closer to a character issue than something to be rewarded.
Second Best™ - Card Player, 4x Issues Author, 4.5x SC Author, Editor

User avatar
Mathuvan Union
Senator
 
Posts: 4748
Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:24 pm

Noahs Second Country wrote:Wouldn't an ultra-common mean that the card would be more common?

Why would those cards be worth more? Why am I even entertaining this idea?

A new "in-between" rarity would be even worse than a new top-level rarity.

Yeah I was just thinking that.
I don't mind the current system, but I don't support a new top tier.
Last edited by Various Dictators on 1/1/0001, at 12:00 AM, edited 9,000 times in total
G'day. I have nothing to say. Damn. this rhymes. LOOK AWAY, MORTAL BEINGS!
Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic of all times. Yes, I am Hobbes
Best Song Ever. At The Rainbow in ‘74. Awesome.
Male. Refer to me as ‘he’ or I will bring memes. You do not want my memes.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch

User avatar
HumanSanity
Envoy
 
Posts: 273
Founded: Feb 06, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby HumanSanity » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:29 pm

Is there an actual problem in the current cards market or with current card rarities that this proposal is attempting to fix? Or are we just speculating wildly on a change no one needs?

Right now, it seems to be the latter.

Agree with everything TUMS and Noah said.
HumanSanity
Delegate - 10000 Islands

User avatar
The Unified Missourtama States
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 394
Founded: Jul 30, 2019
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:12 pm

HumanSanity wrote:Is there an actual problem in the current cards market or with current card rarities that this proposal is attempting to fix? Or are we just speculating wildly on a change no one needs?

Right now, it seems to be the latter.

Agree with everything TUMS and Noah said.

*gives HS a hug*

Ultimately what this discussion comes down to is when do we stop adding new rarities? I know from the posts in this thread that the reasons many of you are asking for the addition of a new rarity is either because you:
  1. want a rarer rarity for your own card next season
    I'm sorry to tell you that even if you do make it to Legendary class in a world with an extra higher rarity, you will still not feel the best because there will still be some people above you, and truth is you aren't the best, rarity is a reflection of hard work, and even not everyone who works hard gets there.
  2. are bored of cards
    I'm not bored of cards! There is so much to do in cards, just like so many other things in NationStates it is a sandbox. There are plenty of people who are not bored, and love the current system.
The conclusion here is that cards, just like every other part of NationStates is a long-term, intricate game that requires lots of sustainable focus to produce success and fun.
"I can confirm that TUMS has some high quality content." - Noahs Second Country
"Why are Morover and TUMS in the 'probably insane' collection?" - Virgolia
"We're all sexist in some weird way (Well, except TUMS)." - Vylixan
"Prominent member of the cards community." - HumanSanity
"Fuck off with that shit, TUMS." - Bran Astor
TUMS, The Unified Missourtama States
Minister of World Assembly, South Pacific
Author, Security Council
Executive Administrator, The Card Gardening Society

Quebecshire wrote:Do the fascists of this site have nothing better to do than LARP as churches?

User avatar
The Blaatschapen
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 57916
Founded: Antiquity
Anarchy

Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:22 pm

Cirrus Azale wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
An auction, [v] sells off one mythic rarity to be given to a nation in s3. The highest bidder wins, and their card will be mythic in the next season?


So we’re looking at Koem Kab, The Northern Light, 9003, and Giovanniland all getting there cards to mythic rarity throughout seasons? I think it’d be cool if you just picked 10-20 random nations and suddenly their card had value.


What? No?

I mean an auction, people bidding money(not bank! money), highest bidder gets to choose the one mythic rarity nation card of next season.
Last edited by The Blaatschapen on Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Forumer mod, now a rocker mocker. Thank you Ringo
Five blank lines will now follow





This is the 8th line. If your sig is longer than mine, it is too long.

User avatar
DavanteAdams
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 409
Founded: Sep 18, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:27 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Cirrus Azale wrote:
So we’re looking at Koem Kab, The Northern Light, 9003, and Giovanniland all getting there cards to mythic rarity throughout seasons? I think it’d be cool if you just picked 10-20 random nations and suddenly their card had value.


What? No?

I mean an auction, people bidding money, highest bidder gets to choose the one mythic rarity nation card of next season.



What he means is they all have the most money so it will be them buying it.

User avatar
The Blaatschapen
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 57916
Founded: Antiquity
Anarchy

Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:28 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
What? No?

I mean an auction, people bidding money, highest bidder gets to choose the one mythic rarity nation card of next season.



What he means is they all have the most money so it will be them buying it.


That's bank, not money.

I edited my post to reflect that.
Forumer mod, now a rocker mocker. Thank you Ringo
Five blank lines will now follow





This is the 8th line. If your sig is longer than mine, it is too long.

User avatar
DavanteAdams
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 409
Founded: Sep 18, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:31 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
DavanteAdams wrote:

What he means is they all have the most money so it will be them buying it.


That's bank, not money.

I edited my post to reflect that.


Who the hell is gonna spend a ton of money a fucking computer game?

User avatar
Mathuvan Union
Senator
 
Posts: 4748
Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:35 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
That's bank, not money.

I edited my post to reflect that.


Who the hell is gonna spend a ton of money a fucking computer game?

Talk to Tinhampton and the SC Gang.
Stamps are wildfire in your bank account.
Last edited by Various Dictators on 1/1/0001, at 12:00 AM, edited 9,000 times in total
G'day. I have nothing to say. Damn. this rhymes. LOOK AWAY, MORTAL BEINGS!
Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic of all times. Yes, I am Hobbes
Best Song Ever. At The Rainbow in ‘74. Awesome.
Male. Refer to me as ‘he’ or I will bring memes. You do not want my memes.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch

User avatar
Nooooooooooooooo
Diplomat
 
Posts: 600
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Democratic Socialists

Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:05 pm

How about, common = 0.02
Farmer rarity = 0.01
https://i.ibb.co/0t409y4/spi.png
New Transeurasia wrote:
Did you know? Running faster than anyone else can help you win a race.


googles how to enter nascar with running shoes as your car

User avatar
Sedgistan
Senior Issues Moderator
 
Posts: 29363
Founded: Oct 20, 2006
Anarchy

Postby Sedgistan » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:57 pm

There's a whole lot of "wouldn't it be cool if we..." posts, as well as overly detailed suggestions of new rarities and their respective values and colours.

There's very little thought being put into explaining what the benefits of adding new rarities to the card game would be.

User avatar
DavanteAdams
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 409
Founded: Sep 18, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby DavanteAdams » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:14 pm

Sedgistan wrote:There's a whole lot of "wouldn't it be cool if we..." posts, as well as overly detailed suggestions of new rarities and their respective values and colours.

There's very little thought being put into explaining what the benefits of adding new rarities to the card game would be.


Ok.
I am glad you brought this up.
Some of the benefits that would come in a Mythic Rarity would include
-New Interest

-Good start for a new card farmer (If they get a Mythic)

- Less of a need for inflation since there is a real High MV card.

There are many others I could list off but thats all I can think of rn.

User avatar
Comfed
Diplomat
 
Posts: 684
Founded: Apr 09, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Comfed » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:21 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
That's bank, not money.

I edited my post to reflect that.


Who the hell is gonna spend a ton of money a fucking computer game?

You’d be surprised...
Mall:
Best part about being a mod was engaging in normal player behavior and getting accused of abuse
"You think this is abuse? I'll SHOW you abuse."
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:In the liberal justice system, raiding-based offenses are considered especially heinous. In The South Pacific, the dedicated defenders who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Council on Regional Security. These are their proscriptions. DUN DUN.

Numero Capitan wrote:I haven't bothered reading back but I can unequivocally say that I agree with everything HEM has said and Unibot is wrong

User avatar
Mathuvan Union
Senator
 
Posts: 4748
Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Mathuvan Union » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:42 pm

DavanteAdams wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:There's a whole lot of "wouldn't it be cool if we..." posts, as well as overly detailed suggestions of new rarities and their respective values and colours.

There's very little thought being put into explaining what the benefits of adding new rarities to the card game would be.


Ok.
I am glad you brought this up.
Some of the benefits that would come in a Mythic Rarity would include
-New Interest

-Good start for a new card farmer (If they get a Mythic)

- Less of a need for inflation since there is a real High MV card.

There are many others I could list off but thats all I can think of rn.

No, that in itself is rubbish. There's less need for inflation because it's worth a Zimbabwean Billion Dollar Note.
Last edited by Various Dictators on 1/1/0001, at 12:00 AM, edited 9,000 times in total
G'day. I have nothing to say. Damn. this rhymes. LOOK AWAY, MORTAL BEINGS!
Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic of all times. Yes, I am Hobbes
Best Song Ever. At The Rainbow in ‘74. Awesome.
Male. Refer to me as ‘he’ or I will bring memes. You do not want my memes.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch

User avatar
Luna Amore
Issues Moderator
 
Posts: 12506
Founded: Antiquity
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Luna Amore » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:17 am

The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.
Last edited by Luna Amore on Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:18 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
DavanteAdams
Chargé d'Affaires
 
Posts: 409
Founded: Sep 18, 2020
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby DavanteAdams » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:43 am

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.


Thats actually what I proposed earlier too. That would be a good idea if we were not to add a new rarity for cards.

User avatar
Honeydewistania
Minister
 
Posts: 2575
Founded: Jun 09, 2017
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Honeydewistania » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:49 am

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

That is a fantastic idea, though would it include the non-automatically legendary staff members too? (RP mods, GenSec)
Last edited by Honeydewistania on Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
Honeydewistania (Nation mostly does not represent real life views.)

Retired Regional Military Director of Lazarus
Ambassador to the WA: Benji Schubert Hepperle
Assistant to the Ambassador: Rekeil Wrigglesworth II
Official Coffee-fetcher and Masseuse: Jonathan Santos de Oliveira

The MT Army Warrior
Need me? Click here!
Biggest acheivement: Spelling

User avatar
Mathuvan Union
Senator
 
Posts: 4748
Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:08 am

Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

'Staff Rarity' doesn't sound as electrifying as Legendary.
Last edited by Various Dictators on 1/1/0001, at 12:00 AM, edited 9,000 times in total
G'day. I have nothing to say. Damn. this rhymes. LOOK AWAY, MORTAL BEINGS!
Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic of all times. Yes, I am Hobbes
Best Song Ever. At The Rainbow in ‘74. Awesome.
Male. Refer to me as ‘he’ or I will bring memes. You do not want my memes.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch

User avatar
Comfed
Diplomat
 
Posts: 684
Founded: Apr 09, 2020
Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Comfed » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:31 am

Mathuvan Union wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The only rarity change I think would be beneficial is to set a Staff rarity so the staff cards stop taking up Legendary slots. Could make the Legendary level easier for a player to get into.

'Staff Rarity' doesn't sound as electrifying as Legendary.

It wouldn’t have to be called that.
Mall:
Best part about being a mod was engaging in normal player behavior and getting accused of abuse
"You think this is abuse? I'll SHOW you abuse."
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:In the liberal justice system, raiding-based offenses are considered especially heinous. In The South Pacific, the dedicated defenders who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Council on Regional Security. These are their proscriptions. DUN DUN.

Numero Capitan wrote:I haven't bothered reading back but I can unequivocally say that I agree with everything HEM has said and Unibot is wrong

User avatar
Mathuvan Union
Senator
 
Posts: 4748
Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:32 am

Comfed wrote:
Mathuvan Union wrote:'Staff Rarity' doesn't sound as electrifying as Legendary.

It wouldn’t have to be called that.

Yeah, I got that, but it was dry humour
Last edited by Various Dictators on 1/1/0001, at 12:00 AM, edited 9,000 times in total
G'day. I have nothing to say. Damn. this rhymes. LOOK AWAY, MORTAL BEINGS!
Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic of all times. Yes, I am Hobbes
Best Song Ever. At The Rainbow in ‘74. Awesome.
Male. Refer to me as ‘he’ or I will bring memes. You do not want my memes.
Behind the free market lies the iron fist of the state - the one thing I learned from The Blaatschapen, excluding how to say sheep in dutch

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Technical

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: EcoFriendly, Ioavollr

Advertisement

Remove ads