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The Municipalities of Antarctica
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[Bug(?)] Problem with Captcha -Can't edit Factbook-

Postby The Municipalities of Antarctica » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:02 pm

Good day, to anyone who reads this, I'm currently having an error with the Captcha system that NS uses for... whatever it actually uses it for, and this issue is making it impossible to edit a particular factbook of mine.
The Captcha system keeps trying to give me a captcha every time I finish edits and try to post the edited factbook, and it in particular tells me "This web property is not accessible via this address." With no ability for me to press on, or even answer a Captcha of any kind.
I'd like some assistance as to why this might be happening, ad what I can do to solve this.
I have checked my other factbooks and have determined them to be entirely fine, as I can edit them with ease, but trying to edit this particular factbook simply won't work.
If any staff need an example as to which factbook I'm unable to edit, it is this one in particular: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=1432886

Thank you for your time, and apologies if I'm simply foolish and don't know some obvious way to fix this.

Edit: Upon further tests, I simply can't do anything to the factbook, posting it without edits isn't working either, and I suspect that trying to delete it may not be possible either.

Edit 2.0: Proof of the issue.
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Edit 3.0: Logging out and logging back in had no effect on this either, I can't do a single thing to the file, still not sure if I can even delete it.

Edit 4.0: Probably another important fact is that I'm using the Firefox Browser, not sure if this helps, but it should be mentioned.
Last edited by The Municipalities of Antarctica on Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:32 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Postby Comfed » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:18 am

Not an admin, but I’ve never had to perform a CAPTCHA check for any NS activity.

Do you have a browser or browser extension that might be causing this?
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Postby Sanghyeok » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:20 am

Are you using a VPN?
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Postby The Municipalities of Antarctica » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:52 am

Sanghyeok wrote:Are you using a VPN?

I do not use any VPNs or anything of the sort, and do not use any extensions at all.
Comfed wrote:Not an admin, but I’ve never had to perform a CAPTCHA check for any NS activity.

Do you have a browser or browser extension that might be causing this?

No extensions, and this Captcha situation is not a new one, I've always had to do them, this is just the first time it's crippled my ability to do something.
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Postby Minskiev » Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:54 am

Weird. I’ve never needed to do a Captcha for NS.
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Postby -Astoria- » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:00 am

Minskiev wrote:Weird. I’ve never needed to do a Captcha for NS.
You have to, every time you use the Challenge page.

I somerimes get it if I'm editing a particularly large factbook.
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Postby The Municipalities of Antarctica » Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:10 pm

-Astoria- wrote:
Minskiev wrote:Weird. I’ve never needed to do a Captcha for NS.
You have to, every time you use the Challenge page.

I somerimes get it if I'm editing a particularly large factbook.

I'm suspecting that NS is having a fit over the size of the factbook, and if this is the case, this is a problem for me.
But there should be ways around it, I think.
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Postby [violet] » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:42 pm

Looking into it.
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Postby The Municipalities of Antarctica » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:31 am

[violet] wrote:Looking into it.

That's appreciated, thank you Violet.
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Current Year: 2022 AD.
This nation does not represent my Political or personal views, not entirely. It does, however, use most NS stats. Normal canon also assumes a mostly-normal Earth.
Take everything said on this account with a grain of salt, most of it is uninformed. Also never happy with anything, constantly reworking and reformatting.
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Postby [violet] » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:38 pm

I get the same CloudFlare check when attempting to edit/post the dispatch, but after completing it, it takes me back to the site and completes successfully. I don't get the "This web property is not accessible at this address" message.

Are you able to try making the edit from a different browser or device?
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The Municipalities of Antarctica
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Postby The Municipalities of Antarctica » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:13 pm

[violet] wrote:I get the same CloudFlare check when attempting to edit/post the dispatch, but after completing it, it takes me back to the site and completes successfully. I don't get the "This web property is not accessible at this address" message.

Are you able to try making the edit from a different browser or device?

I can confirm that through Chrome I can make edits and post the file without issues, as it goes through the same process you've just described, which means it's most likely an issue between CloudFlare and Firefox as opposed to an issue solely with the factbook.
That more-or-less solves the issue, though I despise using Chrome for my own personal reasons.

Edit 1.0: Actually, it looks like I've fixed the loop by doing what I did. It looks like I can edit it on Firefox again, for now. Though it might lock me out again.
Last edited by The Municipalities of Antarctica on Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:27 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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A concoction of bureaucratic complexity, frigid weather, and occasional disasters. Managed by an Administrative Governorship and an unstable Representative Council.
Current Year: 2022 AD.
This nation does not represent my Political or personal views, not entirely. It does, however, use most NS stats. Normal canon also assumes a mostly-normal Earth.
Take everything said on this account with a grain of salt, most of it is uninformed. Also never happy with anything, constantly reworking and reformatting.
Typical activity times go from 7-9 AM to 10-12 PM MST (UTC-7). If you want me to react to you, please be aware of this timing. Proud Member of The Pacific.
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Postby Zitravgrad » Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:20 am

Well, for the sake of not cluttering the forum with a new thread, I would like to say that I have had this exact same issue BUT mine could not be fixed by saving this dispatch on a different browser or even platform: I used Chrome on desktop and mobile, then Microsoft Edge and Firefox on desktop. All of which result in this:

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and oddly this, one time:

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So thank you in advance.
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Postby Valentine Z » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:59 pm

Thought I would like to add in that this also happens not just on Dispatches and Factbooks, but also for some forum posts.

4 posts in particular from the Issues Megathread, which I am trying to get the latest edits to go through.

viewtopic.php?p=19956769#p19956769
viewtopic.php?p=32792368#p32792368
viewtopic.php?p=35138640#p35138640
viewtopic.php?p=35138644#p35138644

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Postby [violet] » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:41 pm

I'm not able to reproduce the problem on Chrome/ium or Firefox. Those who experience it regularly, are you able to open a browser console and report any errors? For privacy reasons you might want to send any info to admin@nationstates.net or file a GHR.
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Postby Sanghyeok » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:59 pm

I have never had the problem with factbook, but it does occur to me sometimes on forum posts.
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