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The Dark System
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My Census Stats Doesn't Changes

Postby The Dark System » Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:10 am

Something wrong with my nation's census. I've been answering issues for 3 days and all of my census stats doesn't changes seen then.
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Land Without Shrimp
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Postby Land Without Shrimp » Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:45 am

The Dark System wrote:Something wrong with my nation's census. I've been answering issues for 3 days and all of my census stats doesn't changes seen then.

It's possible you broke the game...?? Your stats are ridiculously awesome, so that's my only guess. I'm interested to see what the answer to this one is.

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Frisbeeteria
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:11 am

Issues impact different stats. If you have absurdly high or low values, issue choices may not change them. It gets increasingly difficult the closer you are to the extremes. It's possible that you've just hit a series of issues that don't affect the easily moved stats.

Edit: if you look at your Authoritarianism and Social Conservatism stats, you'll see some movement in recent issues. Most of the others have movement too small to register on the graphs.
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The Dark System
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Postby The Dark System » Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:45 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:Issues impact different stats. If you have absurdly high or low values, issue choices may not change them. It gets increasingly difficult the closer you are to the extremes. It's possible that you've just hit a series of issues that don't affect the easily moved stats.

Edit: if you look at your Authoritarianism and Social Conservatism stats, you'll see some movement in recent issues. Most of the others have movement too small to register on the graphs.


Well my average income is different between my nation's main page current currency and the trend graph that will always stay 1,196,474 Dollars. Many of my stats on the trend not suppose to be straight like that for the last days after the update.
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The Dark System
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Postby The Dark System » Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:45 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:Issues impact different stats. If you have absurdly high or low values, issue choices may not change them. It gets increasingly difficult the closer you are to the extremes. It's possible that you've just hit a series of issues that don't affect the easily moved stats.

Edit: if you look at your Authoritarianism and Social Conservatism stats, you'll see some movement in recent issues. Most of the others have movement too small to register on the graphs.


I've cheeked my Authoritarianism and Social Conservatism stats and it still stay the same between Aug 31, 2020 and today.

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[violet]
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Postby [violet] » Sun Sep 06, 2020 4:52 pm

The Dark System wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote:Issues impact different stats. If you have absurdly high or low values, issue choices may not change them. It gets increasingly difficult the closer you are to the extremes. It's possible that you've just hit a series of issues that don't affect the easily moved stats.

Edit: if you look at your Authoritarianism and Social Conservatism stats, you'll see some movement in recent issues. Most of the others have movement too small to register on the graphs.


Well my average income is different between my nation's main page current currency and the trend graph that will always stay 1,196,474 Dollars. Many of my stats on the trend not suppose to be straight like that for the last days after the update.

Yep, this is a bug. For nations that have average incomes above 1M, the number is causing an error that aborts the updating of any census values that are changing at the same time.

Not an easy fix but hopefully I can solve it soon.

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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:31 am

I saw the news post.

Right now, The Dark System's Average Income of Rich is reported as 100,000 instead of the previous 9,999,999.99, which is both (A) still unreasonably round, and (B) two orders of magnitude too low.

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Postby [violet] » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:43 am

Trotterdam wrote:I saw the news post.

Right now, The Dark System's Average Income of Rich is reported as 100,000 instead of the previous 9,999,999.99, which is both (A) still unreasonably round, and (B) two orders of magnitude too low.

Thanks, fixed /page=list_nations extended mode. There might be a couple of other places where the incorrectly-scaled value shows up (especially API shards?), so let me know if you spot more.

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Postby Trotterdam » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:06 am

[violet] wrote:Thanks, fixed /page=list_nations extended mode.
It's back to the correct order of magnitude, but it's still listing a round 10,000,000 instead of the approximately 11 million that the news post mentions. The same is true on the nation's own score page.

[violet] wrote:There might be a couple of other places where the incorrectly-scaled value shows up (especially API shards?), so let me know if you spot more.
https://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/api.cgi?nation=the_dark_system&q=census&scale=74&mode=score still lists the wrong order of magnitude: 100000.00 currently.

http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/api.cgi?nation=the_dark_system&q=richest does list what appears to be the correct value (sans cents), 11186926, but is far less likely to be used by most API applications (it's not by mine) due to the incompatible interface with most scores of interest.

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Postby Merni » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:07 am

[violet] wrote:
Trotterdam wrote:I saw the news post.

Right now, The Dark System's Average Income of Rich is reported as 100,000 instead of the previous 9,999,999.99, which is both (A) still unreasonably round, and (B) two orders of magnitude too low.

Thanks, fixed /page=list_nations extended mode. There might be a couple of other places where the incorrectly-scaled value shows up (especially API shards?), so let me know if you spot more.

Nation API "census" shard (here) shows 100000. (but the "richest" shard works). When you use the "history" mode (here) it shows up as 9999999.
World and Region API "censusranks" shards (here and here) show the value as 10000000.
The average on the Region API "census" shard (here, 15910.44) is also wrong compared to the one on the site (here, 1591044). I haven't checked if that means percentages are also affected.

Whoops, ninja'd.
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Postby [violet] » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:30 am

Trotterdam wrote:It's back to the correct order of magnitude, but it's still listing a round 10,000,000 instead of the approximately 11 million that the news post mentions.

I'm not forcing a recalculation because I want to make sure it updates correctly on its own. Right now the system is accepting values beyond the old limit of 9,999,999.99, but the nation hasn't yet answered an issue, so no new value has been calculated yet.

The API shard mentioned is now fixed.

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Postby Flanderlion » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:37 am

Trotterdam wrote:I saw the news post.

Right now, The Dark System's Average Income of Rich is reported as 100,000 instead of the previous 9,999,999.99, which is both (A) still unreasonably round, and (B) two orders of magnitude too low.

Saw and appreciated the news post, and despite being not a nation that benefits from the change, always happy to see [v] fixing stuff. I'm guessing this will also change the wealth gaps stat rankings for TDS?
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The Dark System
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Postby The Dark System » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:19 am

It works now, thanks.

I felt mind blow that I'm in the news right now.

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Postby Lorum Ipsem » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:01 am

The Dark System wrote:I felt mind blow that I'm in the news right now.

Congratulations!
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Land Without Shrimp
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Postby Land Without Shrimp » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:10 am

The Dark System wrote:It works now, thanks.

I felt mind blow that I'm in the news right now.

Pretty cool right!? =D Saw that this morning and was like..."wait, I know about this!" So you *did* break the game. Good job.

Thanks [v] as always!
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Postby Parxland » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:58 pm

The Dark System wrote:It works now, thanks.

I felt mind blow that I'm in the news right now.


You accidentally did something that the largest communities in this game try to do all the time. You got some braggin' rights rn.
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