by Paleoconservative Nationalists » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:24 pm
by SherpDaWerp » Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:39 pm
The Free Joy State wrote:Awhile back, the team (aware of the deep and personal feelings around the sensitive issue of abortion) took the -- perhaps controversial decision -- to (generally speaking, allowing for individual stats) programme a civil rights rise for both banning and allowing abortion.
Due to the strength of emotion it raises, we felt it inappropriate to come down on either side of this debate.
by Dolgo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:27 pm
SherpDaWerp wrote:Social Conservatism isn't directly related to things that people find "conservative" or "liberal", as those definitions can change over time. It's merely an inverse to Civil Rights. Whenever Civil Rights goes up, Social Conservatism goes down, and vice versa.
As for "why does banning abortion increase my civil rights?":The Free Joy State wrote:Awhile back, the team (aware of the deep and personal feelings around the sensitive issue of abortion) took the -- perhaps controversial decision -- to (generally speaking, allowing for individual stats) programme a civil rights rise for both banning and allowing abortion.
Due to the strength of emotion it raises, we felt it inappropriate to come down on either side of this debate.
by SherpDaWerp » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:01 pm
Dolgo wrote:SherpDaWerp wrote:Social Conservatism isn't directly related to things that people find "conservative" or "liberal", as those definitions can change over time. It's merely an inverse to Civil Rights. Whenever Civil Rights goes up, Social Conservatism goes down, and vice versa.
As for "why does banning abortion increase my civil rights?": see here
While I'm not necessarily saying the UN is an authority on what is or what is not moral, but I think when it comes to what should generally be considered "universal human rights," their stance should be considered.
In this case, the United Nations does indeed consider access to abortion a human right. I think moderation should look beyond merely the sentiments of the forum or America when determining the true controversy of an issue: https://reproductiverights.org/press-ro ... tality-are
So, in this context, I think the issue should be changed. The notion that restricting one's reproductive choices is a plus to their "civil rights" is patently absurd. Civil rights concerns the individual in question. Legalizing abortion is not pro-natal, pro-fetus, or pro-life in the strictest definition, but it is pro-freedom for the woman who is pregnant.
Anyway, I don't feel strongly one way or another on this issue technically, or even morally for that matter. Just offering my take.
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