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Nation Creation Questions

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:37 pm
by Paffnia
Two notes on the questions presented when creating a new nation:

1. Question 6, "Capitalism is on the way out.", is ambiguously worded. Is it asking an empirical/observational question—"Do you think capitalism is dropping in prevalence as an economic system (around the world), regardless of your opinions on capitalism?"—or an opinion question—"Do you think capitalism should be on the way out?" I presume the latter is intended, but as written, it reads like the former. For instance, a pro-capitalism pessimist could think that capitalism is on the way out (but not be happy about that).

2. Question 7, "Without democracy, a country has nothing", lacks a period, while the others have one.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:59 pm
by Paffnia
Bumping this. I understand #1 may not be changed, as I believe the statement has been there for a long time, but #2 is a small fix at least.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:03 pm
by Ranoria
The first one is asking more regarding your beliefs than the state of the world. The second, just treat it as if it has a period lol. The issues you get will allow you to shape your nation however you see fit though down the road. The questions just give you a baseline.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:41 am
by Paffnia
Ranoria wrote:The first one is asking more regarding your beliefs than the state of the world.

When I first created a nation years ago, this wasn't immediately obvious to me.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:48 am
by Disgraces
I believe the "Capitlalism is on the way out" is asking for your opinion wince if you strongly agree it enacts the Socialism policy

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:02 pm
by The Python
Disgraces wrote:I believe the "Capitlalism is on the way out" is asking for your opinion wince if you strongly agree it enacts the Socialism policy

Yes, usually I answer "Agree" on that question when creating puppets, but it doesn't enact Socialism policy unless you Strongly Agree.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:11 pm
by Disgraces
The Python wrote:
Disgraces wrote:I believe the "Capitlalism is on the way out" is asking for your opinion wince if you strongly agree it enacts the Socialism policy

Yes, usually I answer "Agree" on that question when creating puppets, but it doesn't enact Socialism policy unless you Strongly Agree.

I do too

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:45 pm
by Paffnia
Disgraces wrote:I believe the "Capitlalism is on the way out" is asking for your opinion wince if you strongly agree it enacts the Socialism policy

Right, but new players don't know this (or even know what a policy is) when they answer the question. Just based on the text, read plausibly as it is written, it seems like it's asking an empirical question, not a question of opinion.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:14 pm
by Merni
Paffnia wrote:
Disgraces wrote:I believe the "Capitlalism is on the way out" is asking for your opinion wince if you strongly agree it enacts the Socialism policy

Right, but new players don't know this (or even know what a policy is) when they answer the question. Just based on the text, read plausibly as it is written, it seems like it's asking an empirical question, not a question of opinion.

But does it really matter for new nations? After all, in the first days it's pretty easy to change your initial stats (to an extent).

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:28 pm
by Paffnia
Bumping this. Especially the second, as the lack of a period is just a clear error.

Merni wrote:
Paffnia wrote:Right, but new players don't know this (or even know what a policy is) when they answer the question. Just based on the text, read plausibly as it is written, it seems like it's asking an empirical question, not a question of opinion.

But does it really matter for new nations? After all, in the first days it's pretty easy to change your initial stats (to an extent).

The same could be said about any of the questions, or them all. Stats may be easier to change early, but 1) it's still not super easy, and 2) the point of the questions is to give players control over the initial stats of their nation.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:47 am
by Paffnia
Paffnia wrote:Bumping this. Especially the second, as the lack of a period is just a clear error.

I made a new nation recently and saw these issues still there. Just a nudge on this. Perhaps #1 is like the first set of issues from Max, i.e. uneditable, but #2 seems like an easy fix.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:11 am
by Sedgistan
Meh on #1, but I've put in a request for #2 to be fixed.