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Welcome Re-no, wait, Youtube this time!

Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:59 pm

I feel like we've been here before...

First off, welcome to Nationstates! I've been informed by the massive influx of new nations far, far above our usual average spawn rate that a lot of you are new and probably wondering just what the big deal is around here. So here's a sort of quick-start guide that should hopefully help cover the basics. This is just scratching the surface; each section of the forum has advice threads pinned at the top with more in-depth information.

The Site Rules- Please for the love of everything, give these a quick look. While the rules basically amount to "Don't be a dick," there are many behaviors that while acceptable elsewhere, are much less so here owing to the sometimes extremely heated nature of political discussions. Several of you may have already had run-ins with moderation over inappropriate account names or customizable fields. Really guys, genitalia and slurs don't belong there and trying to sneak them in is just going to get your shiny new nation obliterated.

The Game
You have a nation. Every roughly 6 hours, you receive a new daily issue to decide on or dismiss entirely, and these will change your nation's stats. What issue you receive is decided at random from the list of issues your nation is eligible for. You can find more information about daily issues in the Got Issues section of the forum.

Your nation is in a region. You can freely move your nation out of the "feeder" region you started in to almost any other region in the game. There's quite a few of them, so you're bound to find one that fits your preferences. If not, you can create your own! You can find a great deal more information on various in-game activities such as raiding and defending and regional politicking over in the Gameplay section of the forum.

The World Assembly
This is basically the game's equivalent to the real world United Nations. You don't have to be a member if you don't want to. It's split into two councils. The General Assembly which handles drafting and voting on international legislation, and the Security Council, which handles matters praising and condemning specific nations and regions for their conduct. Please note that if you do decide to join the WA, you may only have ONE nation in it! Operating multiple WA accounts can result in having all of your nations kicked from the WA for one year!

The... trading card game-?
One instance of an April Fools gag gone horribly right, you can also collect, buy, sell, and trade collectible cards of various nations. The card game is presently in its second season, and you can find out more information in the Trading Cards forum. Long story short: answer issues, get card packs, and then try to play the card market to collect ones you want. People have all sorts of collecting themes, from site staff to WA authors to "nations with cat flags." Honestly, I have no idea why this became so popular.

War?
Nationstates does not have a built in war system. Nationstates is largely a game of imagination and creative effort. Players engage in a wide variety of roleplay involving their nations, from wars, trade deals, character storylines, and even sports. We have a team of volunteer mentors who you can ask for assistance. Roleplaying on Nationstates really only has one main rule: You don't have to play with anybody you don't want to; so if somebody declares war on your for example, you do not have to accept it, and you can tell them you don't want to RP with them.

Sports-??
NS Sports is for sports roleplay. More interested in your Messis than your Mechanoids or Marxism? Player-run RPs based on the world of sports can be found here. The 85th installment of the Nationstates World Cup is currently accepting sign-ups for participants.

What about the rest of the forum?
Nationstates General is our general discussion forum. Real world news, events, and politics are debated here. Please remember to keep it civil! You can also hang out and chat in the current iteration of The Eternal Thread.

Arts & Fiction is the place to talk movies, video games, books, music, and so on. Some players will share their own original work here for discussion and critique as well. Again, please keep it civil!

Portal to the Multiverse is our roleplaying board for any and all roleplays that don't involve your Nationstates nation. You'll find player-run RPs here based on comics, movies, anime, novels, totally original settings, and so on. You can poke one of our P2TM Mentors if you need some advice or have any questions.

Forum 7 is our really goofy, laid back section for word games and other tidbits that don't really fit anywhere else. Keep in mind that this is not a spam forum, though it does tend to have a more relaxed atmosphere than more other sections.

General advice
Really, when in doubt, lurk a bit and look at what other folks are doing to get a feel for the place. Once again, there are advice and information threads pinned in each section of the forums that can give you more in-depth information, and there are a lot of players who are generally willing to answer questions.

Once again, welcome to the madhouse, I hope you enjoy your stay! :)

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Reason: Minor fix to the section about NS Sports
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Postby Free Republics » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:21 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:Sports-??
NS Sports is for sports roleplay. More interested in your Messis than your Mechanoids or Marxism? Player-run RPs based on the world of sports can be found here. The 85th installment of the Nationstates World Cup is currently in progress.


By "currently in progress" I imagine you mean "signups are still open". We're currently in the host vote which should be followed by the tournament starting. Please read at least the "HOW TO SIGN UP" section of the first post before signing up.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:23 pm

Free Republics wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Sports-??
NS Sports is for sports roleplay. More interested in your Messis than your Mechanoids or Marxism? Player-run RPs based on the world of sports can be found here. The 85th installment of the Nationstates World Cup is currently in progress.


By "currently in progress" I imagine you mean "signups are still open". We're currently in the host vote which should be followed by the tournament starting. Please read at least the "HOW TO SIGN UP" section of the first post before signing up.

To be honest, I only edited Audio's addition to the last iteration of this. ^^; Lemme go fix that real quick.
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Postby Tinhampton » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:45 pm

Thank you for acknowledging NS Sports. This should be made a permanent global announcement with adaptations as necessary.
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Postby Chrinthanium » Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:29 pm

Welcome new NSers! Thank you, Reppy, for the overview. Hopefully our new-found (pun intended) friends will enjoy their new surroundings!
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Postby Bruke » Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:47 pm

Tinhampton wrote:Thank you for acknowledging NS Sports. This should be made a permanent global announcement with adaptations as necessary.


:o This is a great idea!

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Postby Nilrahrarfan » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:45 pm

Another day, another bunch of illegal immigrants from YouTube.

Still, I don't get how you're supposed to enforce Covid-19 rules with these people coming around.
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Postby Te Netherlands » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:01 am

How are you and the other admins/moderators going to check if they are 13 years or older or not? Most fans of Youtubers are under 13 and clearly don't have any idea what they are doing and saying, and like to annoy others who just want to enjoy the video
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Postby Deltia- » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:22 am

How is it certain that the new players (which i shall refer to as Drewspawn) will even check this?
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Postby -Astoria- » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:31 am

Deltia- wrote:How is it certain that the new players (which i shall refer to as Drewspawn) will even check this?

It's stickied on the user control panel as "important announcements".
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Postby Numero Capitan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:57 am

Deltia- wrote:How is it certain that the new players (which i shall refer to as Drewspawn) will even check this?


It isn't, but regions will do the bulk of integrating new players and this gives them a resource to direct new players to, if they wish. Plus some will see it at the top of the forums.
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Postby Ghost Land » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:03 am

Te Netherlands wrote:How are you and the other admins/moderators going to check if they are 13 years or older or not? Most fans of Youtubers are under 13 and clearly don't have any idea what they are doing and saying, and like to annoy others who just want to enjoy the video

The 13+ age requirement applies only to the forums, not the game itself, and as far as I understand it's a "don't ask, don't tell" kind of policy. There are quite a few people who started at age 11 or 12, never revealed their age at the time, and are still around now a decade later.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:35 am

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Postby Numero Capitan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:39 am

Nakena wrote:20th April shall be henceforth know as the Drew Durnil Day.

The damned salute you newcomers.


I think that day has already made a name for itself...
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Postby Nakena » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:43 am

Numero Capitan wrote:
Nakena wrote:20th April shall be henceforth know as the Drew Durnil Day.

The damned salute you newcomers.


I think that day has already made a name for itself...


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Nilrahrarfan wrote:Still, I don't get how you're supposed to enforce Covid-19 rules with these people coming around.

I think that all comes up to the… "don't be obnoxious" part… to put it kindly.
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Postby WA Kitty Kops » Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:26 am

...now I'm afraid to search Youtube with "Nationstates"... :?

Though, really, NS is one of the best ways to waste time when cooped up indoors. :D
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:43 am

Please find some way to prevent these people from making new nations. The lag is absurd to the point that it's not at all enjoyable to post on the forum.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:14 am

United Muscovite Nations wrote:Please find some way to prevent these people from making new nations. The lag is absurd to the point that it's not at all enjoyable to post on the forum.

If the site is still lagging badly, please make a thread over in the Technical forum. We're not going to shut off new account creation just because we got mentioned somewhere, which would be the only way to 'prevent these people', since the only way to prevent "people from a Youtube video" is to prevent ALL people. (Also, yesterday's lag was less due to the flood itself and more due to a server hamster issue that the flood just happened to exacerbate at the same time.)
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Postby Former Citizens of the Nimbus System » Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:54 pm

Bruke wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:Thank you for acknowledging NS Sports. This should be made a permanent global announcement with adaptations as necessary.


:o This is a great idea!

It would certainly mitigate the difficulty that a new player faces in being overwhelmed by everything that NS has to offer! Up this suggestion!
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:18 pm

Where are the pastries? New nations are supposed to bring ... I mean, welcome, dear new friends, so glad to see you!
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Postby Kaystein » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:40 pm

Beware of gameplay and something called raiding and defending or 'R/D'. Gameplayers, especially from the larger regions, love to find reasons to manipulate people and harass players they don't like.. standard behavior of snobbish elites in any other MMO, but this community's groups can be particularly nasty and cruel to the point of risking the game's developer facing lawsuits. The game's developer and the site staff are aware of it since they're in one of the public discord servers of the game named 'NSGP' (warning: avoid that place like the coronavirus pandemic. It's just players trash-talking anyway.). Generally avoid larger discord servers associated with the game. Don't trust other players easily.

The roleplay community is okay. Cards is okay. The national issues are amusing and the fantasy this game allows is appealing. Play this on your own or with a small group of friends.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:50 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Please find some way to prevent these people from making new nations. The lag is absurd to the point that it's not at all enjoyable to post on the forum.

If the site is still lagging badly, please make a thread over in the Technical forum. We're not going to shut off new account creation just because we got mentioned somewhere, which would be the only way to 'prevent these people', since the only way to prevent "people from a Youtube video" is to prevent ALL people. (Also, yesterday's lag was less due to the flood itself and more due to a server hamster issue that the flood just happened to exacerbate at the same time.)


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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:12 pm

Kaystein wrote:Beware of gameplay and something called raiding and defending or 'R/D'. Gameplayers, especially from the larger regions, love to find reasons to manipulate people and harass players they don't like.. standard behavior of snobbish elites in any other MMO, but this community's groups can be particularly nasty and cruel to the point of risking the game's developer facing lawsuits. The game's developer and the site staff are aware of it since they're in one of the public discord servers of the game named 'NSGP' (warning: avoid that place like the coronavirus pandemic. It's just players trash-talking anyway.). Generally avoid larger discord servers associated with the game. Don't trust other players easily.

The roleplay community is okay. Cards is okay. The national issues are amusing and the fantasy this game allows is appealing. Play this on your own or with a small group of friends.

*looms ominously* You're not in any position, whatsoever, to speak regarding any official matter involving NationStates - litigious or otherwise. And you should certainly not be implying things which seem to accuse other players. Reports belong in Moderation or in GHRs. Putting them anywhere else constitutes flamebaiting, at best, if not outright harassment.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:17 pm

Nilrahrarfan wrote:Another day, another bunch of illegal immigrants from YouTube.

Still, I don't get how you're supposed to enforce Covid-19 rules with these people coming around.

Presumably the same way they have been enforcing them, and have always enforced the other rules.

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