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Civil Rights dropping to 0. [see answer by Admin]

Postby Valentine Z » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:44 pm

Eluvatar wrote:The stats themselves are fine, just invisible. This is a surprising bug with something I was doing.

I will fix the rankings.


YES, even the Anarchies! I am not very sure what is happening, but...

https://www.nationstates.net/page=list_ ... =0?start=0

The stats. It's not just one of those "Oh, the census rankings are wrong, the stats themselves are fine". No no no... Civil Rights are dropping from 100.00 to 0.00, even for nations that never answered a single issue.

Anarchy went from 100 to 0.

Valentine Z dropped to 0.

Alanis Star somehow survived because I was answering an issue while this happened.

EDIT: Answering an issue will get you back your CR as it is, maybe with a few minor changes depending on the choice.

EDIT 2: Answering an issue is temporary. Now my puppets I aforementioned also went to 0.00.

EDIT 3: Admins are looking into it! Uh-oh... I think me saying "Answer an issue" dropped some Civil Rights from 100.00.
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Postby Gandoor » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:49 pm

I was gonna make a thread about this, but I can add that answering an issue will 'restore' your civil rights if it did fall to 0.

(But still, what's going on?)
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:51 pm

Gandoor wrote:I was gonna make a thread about this, but I can add that answering an issue will 'restore' your civil rights if it did fall to 0.

(But still, what's going on?)

Someone in the GI Server says that it might be due to Integer Overflow, or something along that line. The API call didn't help much; doing an API call to my nation also shows 0.00 on Civil Rights score (id = 0).

I guess only [v] and the Admins will know. I wonder if they can rollback to the values from the previous-day.

(Also, good, you are a survivor of this Civil Right Happening 1.0!)
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Postby Urran » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:54 pm

Mine did the exact opposite but I'm still listed as below average even though I'm now inexplicably number one in the region and have the badge for it
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:58 pm

Valentine Z wrote:I guess only [v] and the Admins will know. I wonder if they can rollback to the values from the previous-day.

I certainly hope so, as I bet that most folks won't want that very noticeable trough in their civil rights graph.
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:58 pm

Urran wrote:Mine did the exact opposite but I'm still listed as below average even though I'm now inexplicably number one in the region and have the badge for it

So it's confirmed by more, then! The reason you see "survivors" from this 0.00 mess is because you folks answered an issue.

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^ That up there is my aforementioned puppet, Alanis Star.

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The classifiers don't seem to be affected; even if you get 0.00 for CR, it will still be "Frightening".
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Postby Red Foxia » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:01 pm

It did it to me, too.

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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:01 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I guess only [v] and the Admins will know. I wonder if they can rollback to the values from the previous-day.

I certainly hope so, as I bet that most folks won't want that very noticeable trough in their civil rights graph.

Answering an issue will get you back your CR as it is, maybe with a few minor changes depending on the choice.

I tested it with Samantha-Higgs, Alanis Star, Garden at 6th Mile Road...
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Postby TalAkMaChen » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:03 pm

When answering the last issue ~ 7hr ago, it was still fine. Now I'm back to normal ranges after answering the next issue. So unless you want that drop to 0.00 in the graph, better answer some issue before day's over in the game. :D
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Postby Voxija » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:05 pm

My Civil Rights have gone crazy! First I was in the Top 10%, then I answered an issue that increased it by a very tiny amount, and then it dropped to Top 56%, and then according to the last time I checked (one minute after the below average), I am in the Top 0.03% for Civil Rights! Strangely, my Civil Rights were still "Superb" and with a score of 81.44 for the last two options.

Edit: I think it's because it was 0.0, but I didn't notice it and went to answer an issue anyway. The issue increased my score to what it was before the drop and now I'm in the one percent because most other nations haven't answered an issue yet.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:06 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Urran wrote:Mine did the exact opposite but I'm still listed as below average even though I'm now inexplicably number one in the region and have the badge for it

So it's confirmed by more, then! The reason you see "survivors" from this 0.00 mess is because you folks answered an issue.

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^ That up there is my aforementioned puppet, Alanis Star.

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The classifiers don't seem to be affected; even if you get 0.00 for CR, it will still be "Frightening".

I just had a similar situation. Now it says I'm in the top 1% for civil rights, even though that's not possible as there are nations with much higher rankings than mine in that area.

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Postby War Dogs II » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:09 pm

Of course you're there in Top X% because that is calculated including all those with 0.00 .. thus anyone with above 0.00 will be in the top percentage. At least until that's fixed.

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I get to simultaneously be top 1% for authoritarianism and civil rights, I'll definitely enjoy this while it lasts.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:24 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I certainly hope so, as I bet that most folks won't want that very noticeable trough in their civil rights graph.

Answering an issue will get you back your CR as it is, maybe with a few minor changes depending on the choice.

I tested it with Samantha-Higgs, Alanis Star, Garden at 6th Mile Road...

I'm hoping that the problem gets rolled back, rather than relying on workarounds.
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:28 pm

The New California Republic wrote:I'm hoping that the problem gets rolled back, rather than relying on workarounds.

Let's hope for the best! This workaround is gonna be hard for people with lots of nations.
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Postby Zentata » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:29 pm

My civil rights went up to a lower value than before after I answered a issue, even though the option increased them. In other words, now im going to have horrible civil rights. WTF is going on!? I'm annoyed now :(
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:43 pm

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:My alt nation A long time ago in a galaxy far far away is 22nd in civil rights now. One of my big stat goals, just got it for precisely the wrong reason.

That name and the custom fields would make a Valentian proud! Very long, and elegant. ^^

I should have kept that last issue if I knew about this! Now VZ is 0.00 in CR, dammit!

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Answering an issue is temporary. Now my puppets I aforementioned also went to 0.00.
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Postby Eluvatar » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:53 pm

The stats themselves are fine, just invisible. This is a surprising bug with something I was doing.

I will fix the rankings.
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Mar 02, 2020 2:55 pm

Eluvatar wrote:The stats themselves are fine, just invisible. This is a surprising bug with something I was doing.

I will fix the rankings.

Ohh, thank goodness for that!

Thank you very much, Elu! ^^
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Postby Valentine Z » Mon Mar 02, 2020 3:14 pm

Also, my apologies to those that answered the issues because of my advice. I think your stats went from 100.00 to 99.00 or something.

^^;
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Postby Khoronzon » Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:24 pm

I've actually noticed something similar with Economic Output - I've had it drop after answering my first daily issue twice now, with no equivalent change to Average Income. In the first case, Average Income actually went up, while in the second case, there was no change. In both cases, the resultant Economic Output was more along the lines of what it should be, i.e. Average Income multiplied by population, so I'm guessing there's a problem somewhere regarding how it gets increased by overnight population growth. Probably not entirely related to the topic at hand, but it seems to be of a similar nature.
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Error report : Civil rights

Postby Great Sheriffdom » Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:34 pm

Hello, I have always answered a issues as usual.
However, the Civil right ranking has soared abnormally. The my nation's original Civil Rights is 76.87. But the ranking was wrong at 140th place!

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Civil Rights glitch?

Postby Karstia » Mon Mar 02, 2020 4:36 pm

It seems to appear that my civil rights standing has gone from the 80 percent tile to top 1 percent. Bug, or intentional?

I can't attach an image, but appears that my civil rights currently stand at 16 Martin Luther Units. The top individual has approx. 91 Units, while I have 16. It also shows that my standing is at the top 1%. Does anyone have any ideas on what this means?



EDIT: At the time of this post, it's dropped down to the top 2%.
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