by Eleuthernia » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:52 pm
by Krusavich » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:22 pm
by SherpDaWerp » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:33 pm
Krusavich wrote:Personally, I don't see the need for more "matching" stats. It's just clutter after a certain point.
Low political apathy says the same thing without the need for a whole new stat. I'd be a lot more in favor of giving trophies for the bottom 1% of stats.
by Dabarastan » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:56 pm
SherpDaWerp wrote:Krusavich wrote:Personally, I don't see the need for more "matching" stats. It's just clutter after a certain point.
Low political apathy says the same thing without the need for a whole new stat. I'd be a lot more in favor of giving trophies for the bottom 1% of stats.
But you support literally doubling the number of trophies some nations will have... I'd call that more clutter than adding another stat.
I support this idea... Political Apathy is one of the really obvious ones that should definitely have an inverse, but doesn't, for some reason.
by Eleuthernia » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:00 pm
Dabarastan wrote:SherpDaWerp wrote:But you support literally doubling the number of trophies some nations will have... I'd call that more clutter than adding another stat.
I support this idea... Political Apathy is one of the really obvious ones that should definitely have an inverse, but doesn't, for some reason.
I agree. I really didn't like the idea in the other thread of awarding badges for bottom 1%, 5% etc since so many stats already have inverse-stats (even more than mentioned in the OP). A political engagement stat is a nice, but probably not necessary, touch.
by Ruotsaland » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:03 pm
by Platinia » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:07 am
by Gikyvernisi » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:13 am
by SherpDaWerp » Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:03 pm
by Noahs Second Country » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:02 pm
SherpDaWerp wrote:Bumping this - a new inverse stat should require significantly less coding effort than any of the current betas, all it needs is to be based off whatever backstage stats currently determine Political Apathy.
by SherpDaWerp » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:08 pm
Noahs Second Country wrote:SherpDaWerp wrote:Bumping this - a new inverse stat should require significantly less coding effort than any of the current betas, all it needs is to be based off whatever backstage stats currently determine Political Apathy.
The way I see it, the Patriotism beta is pretty similar to what this thread calls for.
by SherpDaWerp » Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:34 pm
by ALL HAIL GREATEST LEADER MENTA LEE-IL » Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:12 pm
SherpDaWerp wrote:'nuvva bump...
With the Patriotism beta reaching public release, it's visible on quite a few nation pages that it's not really an inverse to Political Apathy, as was suggested.
I probably could find a low/low if I really tried, but those three examples took more time to copy links in than actually find them while a low/low might take a bit more searching. Once Val's new data trawl gets done we'll have more knowledge, but for now - it doesn't look like Patriotism is doing much the same job as a Political Engagement stat would.
by Bears Armed » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:11 pm
by SherpDaWerp » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:47 pm
Bears Armed wrote:Government's types presumably would affect how far ordinary people could become "politically engaged", and might do so in ways that did not mirror the 'Political Apathy' stat.
by SherpDaWerp » Wed May 04, 2022 5:04 pm
by The Orwell Society » Wed May 04, 2022 5:38 pm
SherpDaWerp wrote:10-and-a-bit-month bump. Here's a collection of all prior requests/questions on this topic:
viewtopic.php?p=38992896#p38992896
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=436804
viewtopic.php?p=32262211#p32262211
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=396365
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=369871
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=292825
Yes, I'm transparently interested in this because I'm <200th last place and I want a new gold badge. It's more than that though, as many people have said before - this game is a political one, and does it not make sense to explicitly reward players with a trophy for garnering political engagement with their citizens? It's the most obvious inverse we don't already have.
Prior discussion has mentioned Patriotism as an inverse-lite to this stat; that may be true, but I'm talking about a full, directly inversely correlated, new stat.
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