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Postby Trotterdam » Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:31 pm

Lillorainen wrote:(Allowing people to work at the beach could help as well, there was some issue about it.)
Maybe, or it might make things worse, if there's only a limited amount of beach space that all the companies are fighting over :)

Lillorainen wrote:People with hobbies that require certain environments will have to commute as well (e.g. surfers who live a bit farther away from the next beach etc.).
To be fair, people are not likely to practice such hobbies every single day. And even if they do, they probably don't need to go there during rush hour, which seriously eases the strain on commuting.

Lillorainen wrote:Everyday life things like shopping can quite become a longer travel for someone who lives in a very remote place, too.
True. This would probably be more of an issue in highly rural nations and less of one in heavily-urbanized ones.

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:36 am

This one's being significantly rejigged backstage to fix some of the unit weirdnesses, and to change the design philosophy. Will keep you posted.
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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:42 am

The higher the number, the less stressful the commute.
I wouldn't think too much about the real implications of the purported system of measuring the index. It's meant to be humorous.

Really? So I have good ease of commute? Yay
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:54 am

Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:I wouldn't think too much about the real implications of the purported system of measuring the index. It's meant to be humorous.
Humor still has to follow rules. It's one thing for a unit to be a humorous oversimplification of how the subject really works, such as Compassion being measured by how much your citizens like petting kittens. It's another thing for a unit to be the outright opposite of how the subject is supposed to work, such as Compassion being measured by how much your citizens like kicking kittens.

Besides, Candlewhisper Archive has already officially said that the admins are discussing a revamp, so I see no point in continuing to defend the current unit. Even if you don't think a change is necessary, it still won't hurt, and at this point accepting a change is the path of least resistance.

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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:34 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:I wouldn't think too much about the real implications of the purported system of measuring the index. It's meant to be humorous.
Humor still has to follow rules. It's one thing for a unit to be a humorous oversimplification of how the subject really works, such as Compassion being measured by how much your citizens like petting kittens. It's another thing for a unit to be the outright opposite of how the subject is supposed to work, such as Compassion being measured by how much your citizens like kicking kittens.

Besides, Candlewhisper Archive has already officially said that the admins are discussing a revamp, so I see no point in continuing to defend the current unit. Even if you don't think a change is necessary, it still won't hurt, and at this point accepting a change is the path of least resistance.

That's exactly what I thought. Anyways, this would affect my issue answers later on
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Postby Lillorainen » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:35 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:(Allowing people to work at the beach could help as well, there was some issue about it.)
Maybe, or it might make things worse, if there's only a limited amount of beach space that all the companies are fighting over :)

Of course, it will depend on how the landscape is made up - it might not be a problem in a country like the Maldives (644 km of coast length), but perhaps a huge problem in Bosnia (4 km of coast length). ^^

Lillorainen wrote:People with hobbies that require certain environments will have to commute as well (e.g. surfers who live a bit farther away from the next beach etc.).
To be fair, people are not likely to practice such hobbies every single day. And even if they do, they probably don't need to go there during rush hour, which seriously eases the strain on commuting.

Yeah, surfing was less of a good example for that. Horseriding would be a better one, for it can be quite a bit of a travel from the center of a large city to the next stable, which is likely to be situated in a more suburban or rural area (and pretty much every horserider I've ever met, especially owners or caretakers, would rather only leave a day out in very exceptional cases). There are quite a few more examples, but I think, you got the idea. ^^

Lillorainen wrote:Everyday life things like shopping can quite become a longer travel for someone who lives in a very remote place, too.
True. This would probably be more of an issue in highly rural nations and less of one in heavily-urbanized ones.

Indeed - it depends on how the nation is made up.
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Postby Trotterdam » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:54 am

Lillorainen wrote:Yeah, surfing was less of a good example for that. Horseriding would be a better one, for it can be quite a bit of a travel from the center of a large city to the next stable, which is likely to be situated in a more suburban or rural area (and pretty much every horserider I've ever met, especially owners or caretakers, would rather only leave a day out in very exceptional cases). There are quite a few more examples, but I think, you got the idea. ^^
I occasionally see people riding horses down the less-busy side streets of what's definitely deep in the city. I'm not sure where they get the horses from.

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Postby Lillorainen » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:03 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:Yeah, surfing was less of a good example for that. Horseriding would be a better one, for it can be quite a bit of a travel from the center of a large city to the next stable, which is likely to be situated in a more suburban or rural area (and pretty much every horserider I've ever met, especially owners or caretakers, would rather only leave a day out in very exceptional cases). There are quite a few more examples, but I think, you got the idea. ^^
I occasionally see people riding horses down the less-busy side streets of what's definitely deep in the city. I'm not sure where they get the horses from.

Well, it can be different in every city - if the one you live in makes it perfectly possible to ride from the edge of the city to downtown safely, it can easily happen. I haven't seen horseriders outside rural areas or suburbs in any city I've ever been to (save for mounted police), so it can be a local particularity. At least for stables, I've never seen them in any city center. ^^
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Postby Celebrur » Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:51 pm

I think it’d make more sense if it was called ‘Accessibility’. If you called it that it’d probably tie in to safety and inclusivity as well as transport though.

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Postby Forsher » Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:31 am

Celebrur wrote:I think it’d make more sense if it was called ‘Accessibility’. If you called it that it’d probably tie in to safety and inclusivity as well as transport though.


Accessibility should really refer to the ability of people with disabilities to get around.
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Why is this one almost always super low?
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Postby Celebrur » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:50 am

Forsher wrote:
Celebrur wrote:I think it’d make more sense if it was called ‘Accessibility’. If you called it that it’d probably tie in to safety and inclusivity as well as transport though.


Accessibility should really refer to the ability of people with disabilities to get around.


That’d definitely be a big part of it, but I still think that accessibility could also be about more general things such as “Ease of Commute”. Accessibility would probably relate to a lot of other things such as the availability of guns so maybe there’d be too many things to track to implement it. Idk.

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Postby Socialismia » Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:35 am

This seems cool

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Socialismia wrote:This seems cool

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