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Ehenhet Dralgad
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Founded: Mar 12, 2019
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Environmentalism and business are too diametrically opposed

Postby Ehenhet Dralgad » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:50 pm

Environmentalism and business are too diametrically opposed in this game. I made this nation Ehenhet Dralgad to see if eco-capitalist positions were represented. Not so far... I just got an issue I want to complain about in particular. "The backs of 'No Trespassing' signs were made for you and me" because an eccentric billionaire bought up a forest promising to stock the national animal, and then advocated promoting forest purchases for ecological purposes. That fit right into the Ehenhet Dralgad motto "Longevity and Greed", so I was like... Ehhh, I don't like this guy, but sure. And lo, lifespan dropped, environmental beauty dropped, weather dropped. That was not the policy I was agreeing to. :(
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Aclion
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Postby Aclion » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:50 pm

That sounds like a technical issue with that issue. I suggest bringing it up in the got issuse mega thread if you haven't already. viewtopic.php?f=13&t=424650

As for the opposition between Environmentalism and Business, I think there is one. But it's a product of the type of issues people write. The trope of the environmentalists facing the corporation is a classic one(hell). It is technically possible to promote both business and the environment, and some issues do it. THey're just rarer then those that try to put them at odds.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:05 am

See this nation for an example of one that manages to have a wonderful environment and a top-rank economy...
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Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Phydios
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Left-Leaning College State

Postby Phydios » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:10 am

Bears Armed wrote:See this nation for an example of one that manages to have a wonderful environment and a top-rank economy...

And my own nation too. Worldwide, I'm in the top 4% in Environmental Beauty, top 12% in Eco-Friendliness, top 3% in Economy, and top 6% for Economic Output. It is possible- it's just not quick and simple. You've been around for four days- just keep trying. I remember my nation spending weeks once in an economic depression that I couldn't seem to get out of, until finally my effort produced fruit. It just takes patience.
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