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Free Sirrai
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Compulsory nudity

Postby Free Sirrai » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:27 am

I saw that to get compulsory nudity law you have to get an issue from one of the 30 starter issues. I saw that nations only get those in the first couple of weeks. Is it possible to get the issue afterwards as well? Or is it only available to new nations?

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Sovereign Wilderness
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Postby Sovereign Wilderness » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:30 am

You can get it later, as well.

My understanding is that those starter issues are more likely to come up when new, though later issues also get thrown into the mix. As you go, more (mostly) randomly-chosen issues are shown to you. Until you've cycled through the entire catalog of issues, and then the process starts over again.

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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:38 am

Sovereign Wilderness wrote:You can get it later, as well.

My understanding is that those starter issues are more likely to come up when new, though later issues also get thrown into the mix. As you go, more (mostly) randomly-chosen issues are shown to you. Until you've cycled through the entire catalog of issues, and then the process starts over again.

The bit that I've put into red is incorrect. Issues can repeat before you've " cycled through the entire catalog"... and no single nation is likely to be eligible for every issue in the list, anyway.
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Sovereign Wilderness
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Postby Sovereign Wilderness » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:57 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Sovereign Wilderness wrote:Until you've cycled through the entire catalog of issues, and then the process starts over again.

The bit that I've put into red is incorrect. Issues can repeat before you've " cycled through the entire catalog"... and no single nation is likely to be eligible for every issue in the list, anyway.


I see, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

Do you mean that, even though you've not yet received all of the issues you are eligible for, you can start receiving repeat issues?

Or that, because it is highly unlikely to be eligible for every issue, you do begin to get repeat issues before cycling through the full list?

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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:16 am

Sovereign Wilderness wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:The bit that I've put into red is incorrect. Issues can repeat before you've " cycled through the entire catalog"... and no single nation is likely to be eligible for every issue in the list, anyway.


I see, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

Do you mean that, even though you've not yet received all of the issues you are eligible for, you can start receiving repeat issues?

Or that, because it is highly unlikely to be eligible for every issue, you do begin to get repeat issues before cycling through the full list?

The first of those.
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474, 1521.

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Trotterdam
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:33 am

There are no longer any starter issues. That was changed long ago, and nations can now receive any issue (that they qualify for based on stats) within minutes of creation, not just the original 31.

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The Free Joy State
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Postby The Free Joy State » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:54 am

Sovereign Wilderness wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:The bit that I've put into red is incorrect. Issues can repeat before you've " cycled through the entire catalog"... and no single nation is likely to be eligible for every issue in the list, anyway.


I see, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.

Do you mean that, even though you've not yet received all of the issues you are eligible for, you can start receiving repeat issues?

Or that, because it is highly unlikely to be eligible for every issue, you do begin to get repeat issues before cycling through the full list?

Issues are completely randomly generated (with the exception of issues that you write -- which you get, regardless of eligibility the moment they're released -- and issues that chain on from a previous issue).

It's possible -- although not likely -- to receive an issue soon after you've had it before, especially if you are only eligible for a small pool of issues.

You don't work through them in rotation (all the issues you're eligible for and then starting again), because the list is always changing (with new ones -- some of which you are eligible for -- being added, and the issues you're eligible for potentially changing with each new issue you answer).

Good news, OP, is that two issues bring in compulsory nudity. #8 (Nudists Demand Time in Sun") and #823 ("Where the Sun Don't Shine"), so you have two chances to bring in this policy.
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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:51 am

Huh, just two of them eh? I never noticed that.

I note issue 295 can make nudity compulsory for women only...
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Postby Trotterdam » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:02 pm

Candlewhisper Archive wrote:I note issue 295 can make nudity compulsory for women only...
Yes, but it requires already having compulsory nudity for everyone as a prerequisite. There's currently no way to go directly from "no compulsory nudity for anyone" to "compulsory nudity for women only" without the intermediate step. (There's also no way to have compulsory nudity for men only.)

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Postby Candlewhisper Archive » Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:11 am

Trotterdam wrote:
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:I note issue 295 can make nudity compulsory for women only...
Yes, but it requires already having compulsory nudity for everyone as a prerequisite. There's currently no way to go directly from "no compulsory nudity for anyone" to "compulsory nudity for women only" without the intermediate step. (There's also no way to have compulsory nudity for men only.)


True, though the latter thing isn't an important narrative gap.
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