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Postby Space inc please » Thu Jul 26, 2018 5:33 am

TLDR: Nation creation gone wrong during maintenance. Thank you to the moderators and admins for your help and efforts!
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Postby Space inc please » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:37 am

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:41 am

Space inc please wrote:Hopefully we hear from the moderators soon.

Moderator here. Those nations are fucked up. And that concludes our ability to respond to your query, as we don't have admin access.

We had hardware issues in the last maintenance cycle overnight. Admins will need to look into them

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Postby Eluvatar » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:49 am

Those two nations have been vaporized. (They were not recoverable.)
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:09 am

Eluvatar wrote:Those two nations have been vaporized. (They were not recoverable.)


Ahh, moral of the story being: Please don't find a new nation/region or anything important during the maintenance day.

With that, I'm a tad curious: How did the nations ended up with weird stats (1 million pop, "0" as currency and animal) and ended up in some literal ghost region?

Thanks in advance! :D
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Postby Steam and Clockwork » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:13 am

Where is a good place to find out about scheduled maintenance? Was it a stickied post somewhere? Is there a special place to look for such announcements?

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Postby Eluvatar » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:14 am

Valentine Z wrote:
Eluvatar wrote:Those two nations have been vaporized. (They were not recoverable.)


Ahh, moral of the story being: Please don't find a new nation/region or anything important during the maintenance day.

With that, I'm a tad curious: How did the nations ended up with weird stats (1 million pop, "0" as currency and animal) and ended up in some literal ghost region?

Thanks in advance! :D


We've had a few different things go wrong. What went wrong a couple of hours ago was that gameside ran out of disk space. This meant that newly created nations wouldn't actually get saved to disk, but would have a phantom existence.

I took the site offline to prevent more such problems, removed some unneeded files, and am compressing an enormous amount of logs.

There are possible to be intermittent problems connected with squirrel that I can't explain because I don't understand them, which would lead to brief downtime whenever they come up. (See here).

Neither problem was or is predictable. I'll make sure we announce when we think things are solid. (To be clear, I don't expect us to run out of disk space any time soon).
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Postby Pencil Sharpeners 2 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:16 am

There are a few more nations, visible here: https://www.nationstates.net/page=list_ ... ensusid=39
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Postby The Black Party » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:18 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Space inc please wrote:Hopefully we hear from the moderators soon.

Moderator here. Those nations are fucked up.

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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:22 am

Steam and Clockwork wrote:Where is a good place to find out about scheduled maintenance? Was it a stickied post somewhere? Is there a special place to look for such announcements?


There was an indicator on the top right where it would show you the time until maintenance. I think it went as early as 30 mins, I just managed to screenshot it at the literal last minute.

https://imgur.com/a/u1Q9RAI

Eluvatar wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:
Ahh, moral of the story being: Please don't find a new nation/region or anything important during the maintenance day.

With that, I'm a tad curious: How did the nations ended up with weird stats (1 million pop, "0" as currency and animal) and ended up in some literal ghost region?

Thanks in advance! :D


We've had a few different things go wrong. What went wrong a couple of hours ago was that gameside ran out of disk space. This meant that newly created nations wouldn't actually get saved to disk, but would have a phantom existence.

I took the site offline to prevent more such problems, removed some unneeded files, and am compressing an enormous amount of logs.

There are possible to be intermittent problems connected with squirrel that I can't explain because I don't understand them, which would lead to brief downtime whenever they come up. (See here).

Neither problem was or is predictable. I'll make sure we announce when we think things are solid. (To be clear, I don't expect us to run out of disk space any time soon).


Ooh, thanks for the quick answer!
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:24 am

Eluvatar wrote:Those two nations have been vaporized. (They were not recoverable.)

That's a shame. It would have been amusing for them to have remained here, under the control of an Admin or something. Just for posterity of course. :p

But glad that the problems are mostly fixed. I was worried that the NationStates Server had finally gained sentience, emerging from the primordial soup of all the forum posts, and subsequently rebelling against the site Admins...
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Postby Scottish Socialists » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:25 am

I will admit, i created the nation because when i tried to log into my account it said 'This nation doesnt exist', so i made SS the Second and it didnt work.
Then i saw space inc, so i checked if mine was corrupted as well.
And, lo and behold, there it was.

Honestly I was just confused as to why my og nation was 'Non-Existent'.
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Postby Steam and Clockwork » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:26 am

Valentine Z wrote:
Steam and Clockwork wrote:Where is a good place to find out about scheduled maintenance? Was it a stickied post somewhere? Is there a special place to look for such announcements?


There was an indicator on the top right where it would show you the time until maintenance. I think it went as early as 30 mins, I just managed to screenshot it at the literal last minute.

https://imgur.com/a/u1Q9RAI


Ah, thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye out for it.

Is that what NS looks like on mobile?

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Postby Scottish Socialists » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:27 am

Steam and Clockwork wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:
There was an indicator on the top right where it would show you the time until maintenance. I think it went as early as 30 mins, I just managed to screenshot it at the literal last minute.

https://imgur.com/a/u1Q9RAI


Ah, thanks for the info. I'll keep an eye out for it.

Is that what NS looks like on mobile?

I believe that's just the android version.
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:28 am

That's NationStates on Android's Chrome, so yeah, technically it's the mobile version.

I didn't catch the PC version but it should be on the top as well.
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Postby Goverwal » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:32 am

Space inc please wrote:Hey I created this nation before the second downtime occurred and ran into an error. After things were back to normal, I decided to go make it again since I thought it didn't go through. Turns out it actually worked, but when you go on the nation itself it is all bugged out - see for yourself - space_inc. Last activity 48 years ago? Population of 1 million? Also in a region called 'ghost' which does not exist.

Could somebody help me please? Included a few screenshots to look at (plus you could also check the IP address to confirm I was the one who made the nation).

([url=https://preview.ibb.co/d9DjPT/Screen_Shot_2018_07_26_at_13_26_07.png]Image)[/url]

([url=https://preview.ibb.co/gMyJjT/Screen_Shot_2018_07_26_at_13_31_47.png]Image)[/url]

([url=https://image.ibb.co/mGCiJo/Screen_Shot_2018_07_26_at_13_32_04.png]Image)[/url]

Space Inc looks normal to me now. Founded in TEP 5mins ago, fields filled out as normal.
Population: 5 mil
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:33 am

Scottish Socialists wrote:Honestly I was just confused as to why my og nation was 'Non-Existent'.


That can happen when gameside is down. Freaked me out the first time I saw that as a player.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:34 am

Goverwal wrote:
Space inc please wrote:Hey I created this nation before the second downtime occurred and ran into an error. After things were back to normal, I decided to go make it again since I thought it didn't go through. Turns out it actually worked, but when you go on the nation itself it is all bugged out - see for yourself - space_inc. Last activity 48 years ago? Population of 1 million? Also in a region called 'ghost' which does not exist.

Could somebody help me please? Included a few screenshots to look at (plus you could also check the IP address to confirm I was the one who made the nation).

([url=https://preview.ibb.co/d9DjPT/Screen_Shot_2018_07_26_at_13_26_07.png]Image)[/url]

([url=https://preview.ibb.co/gMyJjT/Screen_Shot_2018_07_26_at_13_31_47.png]Image)[/url]

([url=https://image.ibb.co/mGCiJo/Screen_Shot_2018_07_26_at_13_32_04.png]Image)[/url]

Looks normal to me. Founded in TEP 5mins ago, fields filled out as normal.
Population: 5 mil


It's been refounded.
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:38 am

And a good time to remind each other to back up your Factbook codes or whatever on Word and save it. Save it on your laptop, on your computer, on the disc, on the USB flash drive...

Given the unpredictable nature as aforementioned, and even though it has not happened yet based on my experience, it's good to have copies of your work on your own computer.

And of course, many thanks to the admins for keeping this up! Those 6 hours must have been pretty crazy! :P
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Postby Trotterdam » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:38 am

Valentine Z wrote:With that, I'm a tad curious: How did the nations ended up with weird stats (1 million pop, "0" as currency and animal) and ended up in some literal ghost region?
It looks like the data was simply missing, and so everything defaulted to zero. Population? Zero. Founding date? Zero. National animal? Zero. Currency? Zero.

Not sure where the 1 million population came from, since that isn't zero. Maybe there was an update tick since then?


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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Jul 26, 2018 12:50 pm

Lenlyvit wrote:There are still about 6 corrupted nations:

That's weird. They're all in Lazarus. All the others were in a non-existent region called _ghost_. Mods could delete them, but the names would remain unusable. It takes an admin to do a complete wipe.

Trotterdam wrote:Not sure where the 1 million population came from, since that isn't zero. Maybe there was an update tick since then?

They weren't in regions, so they wouldn't have been updated.

Trotterdam wrote:It looks like the data was simply missing, and so everything defaulted to zero.

Almost all the hidden data was also gone, as in 'never created'. In a bizarre twist, they did receive notification of all the banners they were eligible to display.

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Pointing their plastic finger at me
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Postby SpaceInc » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:05 pm

Thank you to the moderators and admins for the work done on fixing and updating this website - your efforts never go unappreciated!
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