Amend Security Council to have power over founders

[Gondelbur]

Why not? The real UN has a lot more power than the NationStates WA. I guess abuse of the system is something you'd have to watch out for, but the WA would still be a democracy, so the common good would prevail, right? Well, in real life democracy is abused all the time, if you're clever enough to do it.
I just think the WA should have a bit more power. For most players it's just like one big/unimportant issue. It'd certainly spice up NationStates!

[Kurnugia]

Hell yeah

[Fauxia]

Hell yeah

I have no idea what you’d use it for.

[Prussian Polish Commonwealth]

how about no

[Gondelbur]

Don't you think it would be interesting? We'd actually see some dirtier politics in NationStates. Also, regions with active founders wouldn't be so invincible. It's a bit boring as it is. Like you can't touch regions that have active founders. Just because Trump and Putin are active doesn't mean Trump can't seriously f**k Putin up - if he wanted! (Okay that was a bad analogy and lets hope that never actually happens lol)

[Forestavia]

ABSOLUTELY NOT! The Security Council cannot be trusted with the power it already has! We've all seen the blatant abuse and weaponization of the liberation these past few months. Don't do it people. Keep your regional sovereignty intact. It's what's best for the world.

[Agarntrop]

[Gondelbur]

ABSOLUTELY NOT! The Security Council cannot be trusted with the power it already has! We've all seen the blatant abuse and weaponization of the liberation these past few months. Don't do it people. Keep your regional sovereignty intact. It's what's best for the world.

But that's the point! Give it even more! Unfortunately, for a lot of players, who gets liberated by who isn't really important. Let's see some actual power plays coming from the SC, starting with the ability to affect the seemingly untouchable founders!! It'd make NationStates so much more interesting.

Please Mr Barry, hear our please!!

[Carolus Rex Francae]

ABSOLUTELY NOT! The Security Council cannot be trusted with the power it already has! We've all seen the blatant abuse and weaponization of the liberation these past few months. Don't do it people. Keep your regional sovereignty intact. It's what's best for the world.

But that's the point! Give it even more! Unfortunately, for a lot of players, who gets liberated by who isn't really important. Let's see some actual power plays coming from the SC, starting with the ability to affect the seemingly untouchable founders!! It'd make NationStates so much more interesting.

Please Mr Barry, hear our please!!

Admins have already dismissed this idea. No luck for any of you, as much as I'd love to be able to raid foundered regions via the SC.

[Kurnugia]

ABSOLUTELY NOT! The Security Council cannot be trusted with the power it already has! We've all seen the blatant abuse and weaponization of the liberation these past few months. Don't do it people. Keep your regional sovereignty intact. It's what's best for the world.

Let anarchy reign supreme! Just as interregional/international relations are irl <3

[Prussian Polish Commonwealth]

Don't you think it would be interesting? We'd actually see some dirtier politics in NationStates. Also, regions with active founders wouldn't be so invincible. It's a bit boring as it is. Like you can't touch regions that have active founders. Just because Trump and Putin are active doesn't mean Trump can't seriously f**k Putin up - if he wanted! (Okay that was a bad analogy and lets hope that never actually happens lol)

I would not appreciate people invading my RP region by targeting my founder.
This means that all regions; including purely RP regions and class regions; are open to raiding.
Do you really want that? You wouldn't enjoy the IRS coming in to tell you to accept a biker gang into your club, so why give the same power to the SC?

[Mallorea and Riva]

Moved to technical.

[Kurnugia]

Don't you think it would be interesting? We'd actually see some dirtier politics in NationStates. Also, regions with active founders wouldn't be so invincible. It's a bit boring as it is. Like you can't touch regions that have active founders. Just because Trump and Putin are active doesn't mean Trump can't seriously f**k Putin up - if he wanted! (Okay that was a bad analogy and lets hope that never actually happens lol)

This means that all regions; including purely RP regions and class regions; are open to raiding.
Do you really want that?

Yeah I want this. This will make regions engage in actual interregional diplomacy. You know as a part of a nation simulation game?

[Jar Wattinree]

What kind of power do you want the Security Council to have over Founders? The ability to revoke Executive from them and slap it firmly on the WA Delegate? The ability to force the Founder to spend Influence to set a password? You must be more specific.

[USS Monitor]

Bad idea. It's important for people that do not want to be part of R/D to have the tools to opt out.

[Jar Wattinree]

Bad idea. It's important for people that do not want to be part of R/D to have the tools to opt out.

And I fully agree, not just from a GCR political standpoint but from a practical one too.

[Kurnugia]

Bad idea. It's important for people that do not want to be part of R/D to have the tools to opt out.

I would argue that the NS forums are a good way to do this.

But the opting out is an interesting point: It is kinda strange that the UCR gper can have the same protection as an isolated/pure RP UCR.

[Frisbeeteria]

I would argue that the NS forums are a good way to do this.

I would argue that passwords, influence, and Regional Officers are a good way to do this. Not everyone likes the forums. I'd bet that less than 5% of our nations (and probably less than 50% of our player base) have ever visited the forums. Some people just like to answer issues or chat on RMBs and telegrams. They also deserve to be protected.

It is kinda strange that the UCR gper can have the same protection as an isolated/pure RP UCR.

There's nothing strange about it. Everyone gets equal protection. The code and the rules have no way of telepathically determining the player's intent for any given nation or region.