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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:36 am
by Arkhall
I was thinking that a good thing to have would be comment tags, so you could keep notes inside factbooks of what does what, or what you need to add later, without actually adding to the viewable factbook, just like comments in HTML. Just like [comment]This text isn't viewable in the actual factbook[/comment] or like [!!]this is a comment[/!!]. I dunno what the format would be, but I'd personally find a comment tag useful.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:16 am
by Kenmoria
I would be in favour of this, it seems like something that could be very helpful for players who write very detailed fact books for multiple nations.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:35 am
by Carstantinopipal
It could be added into formatting templates to explain where to put information

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:00 am
by East Estariken
Carstantinopipal wrote:It could be added into formatting templates to explain where to put information

Precisely. Notekeeping and guides would be way easier this way.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:20 pm
by Wolfram and Hart
*Clicks 'Like' button*
Yeah, would be very handy when you have a bunch of over-complicated BBCode!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:12 pm
by Sad-States
I would highly appreciate if this were ever added :clap:
It would make maintaining factbooks I haven't touched in forever so much easier if I was able to comment/add notes on things for future references.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:15 pm
by Mr Conservative
Would the comments be seen in the "raw" version of the factbook?

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:39 pm
by Amnesty Recruiter
Mr Conservative wrote:Would the comments be seen in the "raw" version of the factbook?

/shrug, maybe? I don't see why they wouldn't, though.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:03 pm
by Sad-States
Mr Conservative wrote:Would the comments be seen in the "raw" version of the factbook?

I would say so. If a feature like this were ever to be made and it was open to the entire public of NS; having only the mods being able to see these said comments would mean that they would also have to direct most of their time in finding users who would abuse it by posting inappropriate comments in factbooks.

I suggest that users should be able to view comments if they were ever added to the game because it would make things a lot more swifter with reporting and so.

Just my two cents though, I would reckon that a feature like this isn't that high in priority. I'm not a mod or anything, so I honestly don't know.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:36 pm
by Amnesty Recruiter
Sad-States wrote:
Mr Conservative wrote:Would the comments be seen in the "raw" version of the factbook?

I would say so. If a feature like this were ever to be made and it was open to the entire public of NS; having only the mods being able to see these said comments would mean that they would also have to direct most of their time in finding users who would abuse it by posting inappropriate comments in factbooks.

I suggest that users should be able to view comments if they were ever added to the game because it would make things a lot more swifter with reporting and so.

Just my two cents though, I would reckon that a feature like this isn't that high in priority. I'm not a mod or anything, so I honestly don't know.

Might not be high in priority, but I also can't see it being too difficult to implement.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:54 pm
by USS Monitor
Sad-States wrote:
Mr Conservative wrote:Would the comments be seen in the "raw" version of the factbook?

I would say so. If a feature like this were ever to be made and it was open to the entire public of NS; having only the mods being able to see these said comments would mean that they would also have to direct most of their time in finding users who would abuse it by posting inappropriate comments in factbooks.

I suggest that users should be able to view comments if they were ever added to the game because it would make things a lot more swifter with reporting and so.

Just my two cents though, I would reckon that a feature like this isn't that high in priority. I'm not a mod or anything, so I honestly don't know.


If it's not visible to other players, then it wouldn't be important to stop people from writing offensive things.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:03 am
by Illerasi
USS Monitor wrote:
Sad-States wrote:I would say so. If a feature like this were ever to be made and it was open to the entire public of NS; having only the mods being able to see these said comments would mean that they would also have to direct most of their time in finding users who would abuse it by posting inappropriate comments in factbooks.

I suggest that users should be able to view comments if they were ever added to the game because it would make things a lot more swifter with reporting and so.

Just my two cents though, I would reckon that a feature like this isn't that high in priority. I'm not a mod or anything, so I honestly don't know.


If it's not visible to other players, then it wouldn't be important to stop people from writing offensive things.

*places entire communist manifesto in a factbook about free market capitalism*

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:22 am
by Evil Dictators Happyland
Illerasi wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
If it's not visible to other players, then it wouldn't be important to stop people from writing offensive things.

*places entire communist manifesto in a factbook about free market capitalism*

*places the entire collected works of Adam Smith in the middle of your communist manifesto*

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:31 am
by Alemputo
I don't know that I would want moderators to waste time fielding through endless comments to find ones that are abusive or spammy. Ito would definitely not be fair to them to have this forced upon them. They already do a lot of work and it is only fair to recognize that.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:33 am
by Arkhall
Alemputo wrote:I don't know that I would want moderators to waste time fielding through endless comments to find ones that are abusive or spammy. Ito would definitely not be fair to them to have this forced upon them. They already do a lot of work and it is only fair to recognize that.


I don't think you caught the bit where other people (probably) wouldn't see the comments. Like my original post, it'd be like HTML comments, only you can see them.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:43 pm
by The Awesome Blue Order
I think this is a great Idea, and I hope it gets added to NationStates :) !

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:02 pm
by Anollasia
Sounds like an interesting idea, like a little notebook to keep your plans. Though I think it should be called notes instead of comments, because comments are typically other people publicly commenting on something.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:59 am
by Bears Armed
If you keep copies of your factbooks offline as documents, too, then you could include the notes in those anyway.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:04 am
by Arkhall
Bears Armed wrote:If you keep copies of your factbooks offline as documents, too, then you could include the notes in those anyway.


This is both more convenient and more efficient than that, though. Especially if you're writing a particularly long factbook and need to keep a lot of notes as you save and then go back to edit when you're formatting and whatnot.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:09 am
by Bears Armed
Arkhall wrote:
Bears Armed wrote:If you keep copies of your factbooks offline as documents, too, then you could include the notes in those anyway.


This is both more convenient and more efficient than that, though. Especially if you're writing a particularly long factbook and need to keep a lot of notes as you save and then go back to edit when you're formatting and whatnot.

If you're writing a "particularly long" factbook then doing so offline, so you don't lose the contents if the site logs you out or some other glitch occurs, is probably a better idea than writing it directly in NS anyway.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:30 pm
by Amnesty Cartographer
Bears Armed wrote:
Arkhall wrote:
This is both more convenient and more efficient than that, though. Especially if you're writing a particularly long factbook and need to keep a lot of notes as you save and then go back to edit when you're formatting and whatnot.

If you're writing a "particularly long" factbook then doing so offline, so you don't lose the contents if the site logs you out or some other glitch occurs, is probably a better idea than writing it directly in NS anyway.


That's fair. It'd still be good for writing templates and the like, and I'd use it for notekeeping regardless.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:41 pm
by Brandenbourg-Anhalt
This is actually a great idea. It would make things so much easier. I hope that admins/mods will take this into consideration.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:08 pm
by [violet]
This idea is difficult to assess because two different flavours have been presented and people are saying they support it without saying which one.

If the idea is for comments that can only be seen by the author, it can't be used to share templates.

If the comments can be publicly seen in raw mode, there are some moderation implications.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:16 am
by Kenmoria
[violet] wrote:This idea is difficult to assess because two different flavours have been presented and people are saying they support it without saying which one.

If the idea is for comments that can only be seen by the author, it can't be used to share templates.

If the comments can be publicly seen in raw mode, there are some moderation implications.

I would say visible to author only. This is because in templates italicised text could be used for the same effect.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:43 am
by The dark Panther
Kenmoria wrote:
[violet] wrote:This idea is difficult to assess because two different flavours have been presented and people are saying they support it without saying which one.

If the idea is for comments that can only be seen by the author, it can't be used to share templates.

If the comments can be publicly seen in raw mode, there are some moderation implications.

I would say visible to author only. This is because in templates italicised text could be used for the same effect.


i agree